Phragmipedium Carol Kanzer ?

blondie · Jun 22, 2017

Hi

So this is has flower I brough this in a large batch of Phrags last year, from what I understand is these came from a privet collection.

I honestly dont think this is Carol Kanzer I think it is a Sedenii. Any thoughts?

It's a lovely flower either way I do like it.

mrhappyrotter · Jun 22, 2017

Agreed. It's definitely NOT P. Carol Kanzer. The foliage alone is enough to discern that, as CK would have much narrower, grassier leaves and would likely be noticeably smaller growing.

As for actual ID, your guess is as good as mine. Unless you know the provenance of the plant, and lacking a label, it's one of those that I'm sure could be any number of crosses involving schlimii and relatives crossed with longifolium or similar.

SlipperFan · Jun 22, 2017

I tend to agree. Here's my Carol Kanzer:

Not sure that it is Sedenii, either.

abax · Jun 22, 2017

I don't think either one is Sendenii unless it's been crossed
with something else. Quite different from my species
Sendenii: shorter petals and much, much lighter color than
mine. Both are quite pretty though.

blondie · Jun 23, 2017

Thanks oh well I was really excited to get Carol kanzer, will have to wait till next years Malvern show to get one.

eteson · Jun 23, 2017

It could be Phrag. Fancy Free (cardinale x pearcei). Some cardinale plants are labelled as schlimii, it would explain why your plant is labelled as Carol Kanzer.

Paphluvr · Jun 23, 2017

And another Carol Kanzer, although I like the coloration of Dot's better. It looks like a darker version of yours.

Brabantia · Jun 24, 2017

And why not a P. calurum ?

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blondie · Jun 24, 2017

My first thought was calurum or Ainsworthii but it is quite a small plant really will have to see how it fairs when it a few years old.

But I think calurum and Ainsworthii have the same parents so how knows, just a shame it's not the plant I brought. Still a nice flower so I'll keep it.

And not the nurseries fault as these we her give to them and they had no reason to doubt the plants.

NYEric · Jun 24, 2017

Ecuagenera mass produces them. If they come to a show near you order one.

blondie · Jun 24, 2017

NYEric said:
Ecuagenera mass produces them. If they come to a show near you order one.

If it had flowered on Friday I would have picked a carol kanzer on Sat when I at Malvern so wil hag to wait a year as I won't see that company till malvern next year.

eteson · Jun 24, 2017

Brabantia said:
And why not a P. calurum ?

The marks in the side lobes are from pearcei or from xrichteri. Also Calurum show the side horns (auricula) from longifolium.

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