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Alright, here's the story. Before I begin, I want to say that the plants that C & H has been offering are F1 (First Generation) mericlones from their division of the original awarded plant and all that I have seen bloom have been very high quality. Also, 'Cashen's' is a confirmed tetraploid...

Yes, NEslipper has a piece of trianae alba `Broomhills' from Plato Matthews and i'm getting a piece from Dave Off. As far as I know they all have CyMV. Edithiae alba `White Empress' FCC/RHS has been tightly held in a few private collections. They were both prized stud plants at H. Patterson &...

The clone used was C. Edithiae alba `White Empress' FCC/RHS and it is a proven 3N. now, weather it was a spontaneous polyploid, or if it came from Suzanne Hye, or trianae `Broomhills', or both I don't know. NEslipper may know if `Broomhills' is polyploid. I think most Bow Bells were polyploid...

Well, I suspect you're feeding it beef & potatoes. -Patrick

The RHS has a painting of the FCC Suzanne Hye, and it's not a great thing, with floppy petals and a very thin spike, but it bred white and was extremely fertile. -Patrick

Terry, I think you're mistaken, Black & Flory was not responsible for the creation of the Suzanne Hye that was used to make Cattleya Bow Bells. instead, they used the FCC/RHS variety, from the original grex, registered by Hye in 1906. it recived it's FCC in 1908. back then many awarded plants...

I think the best variety of Nancy Off, other than `Linwood', is `640' which is now called `Maria', named for Scott & Nancy Off's daughter. One to keep your eye out for. Very full flowers, not as flat as Linwood but a bit larger.

I'm guessing the reason this one has such a special lip, is because, unlike most of the other old whites, this one has Brassovola digbyana (Rhyncholaelia digbyana) in the background. -Patrick

Some interesting information you and others might not know, is that variety 'Orchidglade' came from Jones & Scully's remake of the grex. They used (White Blossom 'Orchid Manor' HCC/AOS x Bow Bells 'Green Tag') -Patrick

I've been bugging David Off to sell me a piece of his 'Broomhills', I'm not sure where he got his. I understand that NEslipper's came from Plato, but I guess Plato's either died or was lost before David got his plants. I would get a piece of Art Chadwick Sr.'s piece, but it is so virused that...

Congratulations! hope I have one some day. In my opinion, one of the only real improvements on Bow Bells in a F1 offspring. the other really good Bow Bells improvement to keep an eye out for is C.Lucille Small 'Marshall' FCC/AOS (Bow Bells x Dorthy Mackaill) -Patrick

Where did it come from? -Patrick

Deb and I saw a piece of C.Nancy Off 'Linwood' AM/AOS, and she told me that you were thinking of getting one, but decided that Bob Betts 'Tacoma' would be a better white. by the way, is your Bob Betts 'Tacoma' an original division? it has been cloned. I have 2 really nice old whites that don't...

I really like the true splash petals, not peloric flowers like prism palette, which has in effect, has three lips. -Patrick

Well Terry, It gets it's splashes from C.trianaei 'Mary Fennell' HCC/AOS, a parent of 'Cashen's'. by the way 'Cashen's' is ('B' x 'Mary Fennell' HCC/AOS). C.trianaei 'Mary fennell' is a jungle plant collected by the american plant hunter Lee Arthur Fenell, of the Fenell Orchid Jungle...

Tetraploid parents do NOT guarantee tetraploid offspring. It is very likely though. -Patrick

Deb, if you wanted to, you could breed a pedigree crop of C. Louis Chanton! -Patrick

That was my post. ;) -Patrick

Very impressive Deb, a little late though. percivaliana for me, usually blooms late November - December. and trianaei from late December to January. -Patrick

Beautiful ! I guess for such a spectacular heirloom plant it deserves the i on the end. :) -Patrick