Besseae, warm and cool growing specimens

[Achamore]

These two specimens are in the two different sections of my greenhouse, the one being warm and the other cool. Don't ask me for great specifics on the temperatures as I lost my thermometers ages ago. But I have pretty normal parameters for the two sections, from what I have read. Of course, these are two different clones. To really test if cool vs warm growing affects the colours, one would need to grow the same plant or at least two divisions of the same clone in the two sections I suppose.

 

[Ozpaph]

colour looks very similar. The shape is probably clonal, but do the experiment with a single clone.

 

[Achamore]

It would need to be a division of a single clone, so they could both be photographed together, like i this photo, as otherwise the lighting differences between two separate photos would muddle any differences. So this probably will need to be done by someone else who has a besseae they have divided. We'd be waiting a long time for mine to be divisible.

 

[phrag guy]

nice to see

 

[17andgrowing]

lovely

 

[SlipperFan]

Are you saying there are warm growing besseaes and cool growing ones? Or that you are merely growing one warm and one cool?

 

[Silvan]

Both are very nice besseae. I've never notice any difference on mine wether it bloomed in summer (max 26C) or winter (min 10C).
Hybrids seems to be more sensible to temperature.

 

[Achamore]

Hi Dot, I'm only saying that (A) I like the temperature tolerance of phrags in general, and haven't noticed the besseae having a strong preference between my warm and cool sections; and (B) I was told years ago by Joe Kunisch in NY that when they were grown cool the colours were stronger. But that seems to be a tough theory to demonstrate..!

 

[SlipperFan]

Hi Dot, I'm only saying that (A) I like the temperature tolerance of phrags in general, and haven't noticed the besseae having a strong preference between my warm and cool sections; and (B) I was told years ago by Joe Kunisch in NY that when they were grown cool the colours were stronger. But that seems to be a tough theory to demonstrate..!

Thanks -- that's interesting, as I've found anything with longifolium in it to be more intense/darker when grown cooler. Maybe that doesn't hold true with besseae.

 

[Achamore]

Maybe only certain colour pigments have this trend of being stronger in cool-grown plants? And red isn't one of those..? (An attempt at a working hypothesis...)

 

[phraggy]

Are all besseae sequential bloomers? I have one that just puts out one flower per spike ( and only grows one spike )

Ed

 

[Achamore]

What is your watering schedule Ed?

 

[Kawarthapine]

Thanks for sharing.

Lovely plants with amazing diversity of form.

 

[phraggy]

Is this a straightforward besseae or a hybrid of some description?
Ed

 

[Achamore]

Is this a straightforward besseae or a hybrid of some description?
Ed

That looks like a hybrid to me, but not sure which..!

 

[NYEric]

St. Ouen. Where did you get that?
BTW, are those 2 besseae even from the same breeding lines?

 

[Achamore]

St. Ouen. Where did you get that?
BTW, are those 2 besseae even from the same breeding lines?

I can't recall where I got the St. Ouen, as it was many years ago, but I expect it was from the EYOF originally. It was a fabulous plant. Lost it in the move from England to Scotland 12 years ago.

The 2 besseae are from different breeding lines.

 

[NYEric]

I've only seen one like that, from OZ.

 

[Achamore]

Could Ed's Red be a Hanne Popow?