Brachypetalum flask success

[troy]

Can anybody enlighten me please??

 

[valenzino]

Deflasking?

 

[troy]

Yes, Growing brachys from flask with success

 

[C. Rothschild]

I had some success with 2" square pots. Charcoal on the bottom.

 

[Stone]

Troy this is what has worked best for me. It's probably not the best way and you can take it or leave it...It may depend on your habits and growing area but like I said this works best in my situation.
I have killed many plants by NOT doing the following!

#1...get a good flask! ....if you can. Take off the lid and leave for 1 week in a warm airy place without touching. A bit of mould on the agar is ok.

*Get the seedlings out as one clump if you possibly can. Do no separate!

*Wash off the agar as best you can without damage to the roots.

*Let them dry completely in a shady airy spot.

*Find a clean pot (squat with good slope to the sides. Straight sided pots are crap!) with plenty of good drainage holes and just big
enough to take the clump.

*Place broken up pieces of polystyrene in the bottom of the pot to fill at least 1/3

*Make a mix up of bark, growstone and polystyrene (or something similar) fine enough to work between the roots. (but no finer).

*Place a little mix over the poly, place the clump on that and sprinkle some mix around and between tapping the sides until the bases of the seedlings are covered.

*Water in with a systemic fungicide made for pythium and phytophthora

*Start (very) light feeding after 1 month

*Separate the seedlings after 1 year if they have grown well. (even 2 years is ok in most cases unless you are lucky enough to get massive growth)

*Place in your growing area and be patient!
Good luck!

 

[troy]

Thanks stone, I'm going to order a flask from sam tsui, I know his agar is quite hard and requires removal or as much as possible, I agree about growing in a clump, just worried about tangled roots and I just got some physan 20 will physan 20 work?

 

[Stone]

Thanks stone, I'm going to order a flask from sam tsui, I know his agar is quite hard and requires removal or as much as possible, I agree about growing in a clump, just worried about tangled roots and I just got some physan 20 will physan 20 work?

It's been about 20 years since I used Physan. I presume it's ok. Others might know.
About the roots, don't worry about the tangles. The roots from the flask will in most cases not continue to grow. It's the new roots which will take over. After a year, you will be able to separate very easily and without much damage as if you tried now. The flask roots are really just sustaining the plant until the ''proper'' roots start.

 

[troy]

Thanks!!!

 

[Paul]

Hi
If you can start them under lights and very warm (25-30°C) they will thrive and mature very fast!! (as long as you have good flask to start of course, and follow the advises of Stone)

 

[troy]

Paul my days are 86 and my nights are 72 under lights with 65 percent humidity

 

[Ray]

I am selling a good amount of the Inocucor Garden Solution product to folks specifically for enhancing the survival of ex-flask seedlings. Interestingly, most of it is to paph growers and breeders.

In addition to eliminating the need for any fungicides, it also enhances nutrient uptake and stimulates growth.

 

[littlefrog]

I was going to post that too, Ray. Yes, that innocucor stuff seems to have really upped my success rate with deflasking. I water in with it, and keep a spray bottle on hand for the first few weeks. I mist the plants with it when I think they need it.

 

[valenzino]

Hi
If you can start them under lights and very warm (25-30°C) they will thrive and mature very fast!! (as long as you have good flask to start of course, and follow the advises of Stone)

Thats the secret,always temperatures over 22C° and,most of the times neglected,water used for watering also always over 22C°!!!(I think cold water is the problem that kills mostly all of them...)Good ventilation is a must if leaves are watered

 

[cnycharles]

Physan is contact cleaner, not systemic. Better to use banrot if need fungicide or better yet pageant

If inocucor works and is available I'd do that first


Elmer Nj

 

[gonewild]

I just got some physan 20 will physan 20 work?

No don't use.

 

[Stone]

Thats the secret,always temperatures over 22C° and,most of the times neglected,water used for watering also always over 22C°!!!(I think cold water is the problem that kills mostly all of them...)Good ventilation is a must if leaves are watered

Agree. I never use cold water on them. I think that is important.