Differences between fischerii and schlimii?

[Bjorn]

I recently bloomed my first fischerii, it was impossible to get in focus so this is my best picture


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Then a week after this one, a schlimii, opened. Definitely two different plants, the plant habit is not identical, but what is the difference in the flower, is there any?


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I thought that some of our experts could shed some light on this, as I have not been able to find significant differences in the flower.

 

[eteson]

Hi Bjorn
Sorry to say but your fischeri is not a fischeri.
It seems to me a schlimii or a pink panther x schlimii.

the main difference between both species are:
1- the staminode. strongly poligonal in fischerii and much more rounded in schlimii (also in fischeri usually W>H)
2-lack of fenestrations in fischeri while schlimii always exhibit fenestrations.
3-some people uses the color but color NEVER should be used to split species. (yellow schlimii is not manzurii dark schlimii is not fischerii... etc).


Here a picture to illustrate fischeri:

hope it helps.

 

[NYEric]

Oooohh! That's not good. Eli, you have a nice one, fischeri that is!!

 

[Hien]

I think I can tell the difference between fischerii and schlimii from your explanation.. but I can not tell the manzurii and schlimii apart , can you explain them clearly for me .. also about size of plants, size shape of flowers, flower stem length etc

Hi Bjorn
Sorry to say but your fischeri is not a fischeri.
It seems to me a schlimii or a pink panther x schlimii.

the main difference between both species are:
1- the staminode. strongly poligonal in fischerii and much more rounded in schlimii (also in fischeri usually W>H)
2-lack of fenestrations in fischeri while schlimii always exhibit fenestrations.
3-some people uses the color but color NEVER should be used to split species. (yellow schlimii is not manzurii dark schlimii is not fischerii... etc).


Here a picture to illustrate fischeri:

hope it helps.

 

[TrueNorth]

What is the white flower in the background of the second photo?

 

[eteson]

Hien just reuploaded the pictures in the othre thread.

Enviado desde mi SGH-I337M mediante Tapatalk

 

[Bjorn]

What is the white flower in the background of the second photo?

Micranthum album. There is another thread on that

 

[Bjorn]

Eliseo, thanks for your explanation sorry to hear its not the real mccoy, but these things are getting too common these days, unfortunately. Mixing similar species I mean like phrag Jersey etc.

 

[Hien]

could someone tell me the size of their blooming size fischerii ?
I just bought a blooming size fischerii from Glen, the leaf span is 8 inch (4 inch per leaf) x 1 inch leaf width , I also bought another BS fischerii from a different vendor and the plant has leaf span of 18 inch (9 inch per leaf) x 1-1/2" leaf width .
-do the plants from this species vary so much in plant size?
-some vendors mention this is a mini phrag . on Seattle orchids the photo looks like a tiny plant with a size of the flower the same as the plant.
http://www.seattleorchid.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=fischerii
I am totally confused.

 

[trdyl]

could someone tell me the size of their blooming size fischerii ?
I just bought a blooming size fischerii from Glen, the leaf span is 8 inch (4 inch per leaf) x 1 inch leaf width , I also bought another BS fischerii from a different vendor and the plant has leaf span of 18 inch (9 inch per leaf) x 1-1/2" leaf width .
-do the plants from this species vary so much in plant size?
-some vendors mention this is a mini phrag . on Seattle orchids the photo looks like a tiny plant with a size of the flower the same as the plant.
http://www.seattleorchid.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=fischerii
I am totally confused.

Recently I picked up a "blooming size" fischerii from Laima Swanson. It is an unbloomed seedling at the moment. It's leaf span is a tad over 8 inches with the newest leaves 7/8 inches wide. It appears to be ready to spike at anytime. But, as I said it is currently unbloomed so the jury is still out. From what I have gathered it is supposed to be a smaller sized plant in general, but with not having seen any personally in bloom I could be wrong about that. I have learned a good bit from this thread already.

 

[JeanLux]

Here a pic of my fischeri and one of my schlimiis (unfortunately the schlimii bloom has sort of defect on its stami)!! Jean

 

[trdyl]

Nice to see them side by side.

 

[SlipperFan]

I can't help but wonder if someday all these little guys will be forms or varieties of one.

 

[Hamlet]

Wonderful photo, JeanLux.

 

[Drorchid]

Another major difference is that Phrag. fischeri self-pollinates, while Phrag. schlimii does not.

Robert

 

[trdyl]

Another major difference is that Phrag. fischeri self-pollinates, while Phrag. schlimii does not.

Robert

Is it best not to use fischeri as a pod parent?

 

[eaborne]

Is it best not to use fischeri as a pod parent?

Correct, to insure you don't get any self pollination. Same with Phrag. lindenii and the other possible self pollinating Phrags. as well. By using fischeri as the pollen donor, you know the cross will be what you are trying to make.