Long before it bloomed, I knew it had the wrong tag. Upon contacting the grower I bought it from, we thought it was most likely glaucophyllum, based on what other plants were in the grower's greenhouse. Any comments as to whether this is correct?
Paph glaucophyllum?
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John M
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Looks like glaucophyllum. But, did you shine the leaves?....because they don't look very glaucous.
Roy
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I agree with John M on both accounts.
The leaves are not really shiney. It just must be an effect of the diffuse natural light when I was photographing it.
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Brian Monk
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Looks like glaucophyllum. What does the bottom of the staminode look like??
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Ernie
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Glaucophyllum is very variable from what I've seen. The leaves and stami will tell the story. Ross, I think you got a glauco from us a couple years back- that was the perfect example of glaucous leaves. Blue-green-grey color with a chalky look. At first glance, the light dorsal halo whispers liemianum, but that species has very strongly marked leaves we don't see here. Could also be a dose of moquettianum in there if the leaves don't quite match up or if the flowers/plant are larger than expected.
I'm sure Sanderianum will chime in and say we're all idiots and he knows the person with the only real glauco and they killed that plant before they ever took pictures, pressed a flower, bred with it, or shared a division or pollen, and it's now lost to the hobby though.
-Ernie
I'm sure Sanderianum will chime in and say we're all idiots and he knows the person with the only real glauco and they killed that plant before they ever took pictures, pressed a flower, bred with it, or shared a division or pollen, and it's now lost to the hobby though.
-Ernie
..I'm sure Sanderianum will chime in and say we're all idiots and he knows the person with the only real glauco and they killed that plant before they ever took pictures, bred with it, or shared a division or pollen, and it's now lost to the hobby though.
-Ernie
" No hangianum album for you!"
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The bottom of the staminode is relatively straight. The entire staminode is almost the shape of a pentagon.
The plant's leaf span is about 12 inches, which is larger than my other glaucophyllum, but smaller than the moquettianums I had.
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Kavanaru
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Interesting.... it actually looks quite smaller in the picture (I know there is no reference point in the picture, but it's the impression I get)
SlipperKing
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So what was on the tag Ross? Nice flower too
Ernie, the strong marked leaves of P. liemianum are visible in this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paphiopedilum_liemianum.jpg. But these mottled leaves are no distinctive feature of liemianum. Most P. liemianum I've seen here in Germany have plain dark green leaves and no mottled ones.
:rollhappy: :rollhappy: :rollhappy:...I'm sure Sanderianum will chime in and say we're all idiots and he knows the person with the only real glauco and they killed that plant before they ever took pictures, pressed a flower, bred with it, or shared a division or pollen, and it's now lost to the hobby though.
Best regards from Germany, rudolf
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Ernie
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Rudolf,
Yes, the intensity of the blotchy mottling on the tops of the leaves is certainly variable. There can/should be a considerable amount of dark red (commonly in stripes perpendicular to the long axis of the leaf) on the bottoms of the leaves too though. The overall color is certainly the darkest of the cochlos. Also, liemianum can have cilia on the leaf margins all the way to the tips of the leaves. The other cochlos only have cilia up to maybe a third of the leaf length max.
-Ernie
Yes, the intensity of the blotchy mottling on the tops of the leaves is certainly variable. There can/should be a considerable amount of dark red (commonly in stripes perpendicular to the long axis of the leaf) on the bottoms of the leaves too though. The overall color is certainly the darkest of the cochlos. Also, liemianum can have cilia on the leaf margins all the way to the tips of the leaves. The other cochlos only have cilia up to maybe a third of the leaf length max.
-Ernie
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