Paph. jackii?????

[jtrmd]

What is ''an un-named California seller'' selling jackii labeled as malipoense, or do you think he had them before they were legal? Either way I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, because I think this species smells better than malipoense.Plus I have some time invested in growing it to blooming size,then waiting for the spike to develop.Let me know what you think,are my observations correct?I will take better photos with a camera nd not a phone tomorrow after I get some input.

 

[naoki]

Nice! It looks like jackii to me. Do the leaves look different? Green bottom?

 

[jtrmd]

Nice! It looks like jackii to me. Do the leaves look different? Green bottom?

I meant to mention that the underside of the leaves are less marked with purple pigment than my malipoense,which is almost completely purple on the underside of the leaves.sorry about that.

 

[eggshells]

Nice jackii. You can tell by the leaves by touch. Paph. malipoense feels a bit rough. Also staminoid is different from malipo.

 

[Bob in Albany N.Y.]

I'm with everyone on this one, jackii it is. I don't have any but I think I have a malipoense x jackii with a flower about to open. I'll have to check the leaves tonight.

 

[jtrmd]

Nice jackii. You can tell by the leaves by touch. Paph. malipoense feels a bit rough. Also staminoid is different from malipo.

Thats what I thought,and as soon as the bud cracked enough to see the staminode I knew something wasn't right. Well I will get a whole plant pic and better flower photo tomorrow to post. I just like getting plenty of other opinions before making my mind up, especially when it comes to plant ID's.

 

[NYEric]

Good pick-up.

 

[dodidoki]

Jackii. No doubt. Very nice!

 

[SlipperKing]

I'm impressed Jamie. I agree with all others. I just don't remember seeing such interesting petal markings on other jackii. Nice treat.

 

[jtrmd]

It was a nice surprise, since I have been waiting for seedlings to start showing up. I wonder if I can get the proper paperwork from the grower after all this time? Makes you wonder how many other people might have one.

 

[SlipperKing]

I konw of one person who does.

 

[jtrmd]

I konw of one person who does.

The person I see different vendors offering mature plants on their websites, so I might give this one a call and see what they say. Chances are I will lose them within a month (the wife has a different idea of what ''organized is LOL!), but it doesn't hurt. This was the first blooming so it might improve on future bloomings. Like I said I have time and bench space invested in this, it grows at a snails pace for me.

 

[Leo Schordje]

I like your flower, good spread, classic jackii shape. The bleeding of color out of the stripes is a bit unusual, but other than that, nice jackii.

Looks all jackii to me, but a shot of the foliage would confirm it. Foliage of jackii is more like foliage reminiscent of lawrenceanum than foliage of malipoense. The hybrid (malipoense x jackii) the foliage favors malipoense. Your staminode is typical jackii. In the hybrid (malipoense x jackii) the staminode will be a spiderwork of purple that coalesces to a purple bee mark. The bee mark is much smaller than in 'pure' malipoense. The purple veining is light enough I would say all jackii.

Paph jackii is around, I don't know about legal or not, but there are adult plants in the US, and there are hybrid plants of (malipoense x jackii alba) floating around. I think the hybrids came in as flasks from a certain grower in Germany. Definitely jackii is a slow grower, but it is quicker than malipoense, and its hybrids bloom quicker than malipoense hybrids. Well worth growing. They have been here so long, I doubt USFWS is interested in tracking them down if they are considered illegal, but I am not sure. I know many USA growing think (I am not sure if it is correct or not) that if they are listed as malipoense var. jackii they are legal. Whatever. The species has been in the US since early 1990's. They are beautiful.

 

[NYEric]

Still not legal.

 

[jtrmd]

I will try to get a picture of the foliage for the thread. Talked to the grower and was told, '' The tag should of been labeled malipoense var. jackii. They have had them for some time, because they came in with a batch of malipoense seedlings.'' I took that as they either got them as a surprise years ago, or didn't give me the ''Whole' story. It's not like this plant is award worthy so I will keep it, just note the label to remember what it is.

I like your flower, good spread, classic jackii shape. The bleeding of color out of the stripes is a bit unusual, but other than that, nice jackii.

Looks all jackii to me, but a shot of the foliage would confirm it. Foliage of jackii is more like foliage reminiscent of lawrenceanum than foliage of malipoense. The hybrid (malipoense x jackii) the foliage favors malipoense. Your staminode is typical jackii. In the hybrid (malipoense x jackii) the staminode will be a spiderwork of purple that coalesces to a purple bee mark. The bee mark is much smaller than in 'pure' malipoense. The purple veining is light enough I would say all jackii.

Paph jackii is around, I don't know about legal or not, but there are adult plants in the US, and there are hybrid plants of (malipoense x jackii alba) floating around. I think the hybrids came in as flasks from a certain grower in Germany. Definitely jackii is a slow grower, but it is quicker than malipoense, and its hybrids bloom quicker than malipoense hybrids. Well worth growing. They have been here so long, I doubt USFWS is interested in tracking them down if they are considered illegal, but I am not sure. I know many USA growing think (I am not sure if it is correct or not) that if they are listed as malipoense var. jackii they are legal. Whatever. The species has been in the US since early 1990's. They are beautiful.