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Paphio fake Maudiea, NoId

It look more green in real.

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Nice. What's the cross?? If it's a mis spelled Maudiae, it's not. Too much veining in the pouch and silvery/ light green petal tips. It must have venustum in it somewhere.
 
Nice. What's the cross?? If it's a mis spelled Maudiae, it's not. Too much veining in the pouch and silvery/ light green petal tips. It must have venustum in it somewhere.

According to the RHS site, there is no hybrid called Maudea. So, I assume that this is just a typing mistake and Odin meant to say "Maudiae". Although, very beautiful, as soon as I laid eyes on the photos I also felt that this was not true Maudiae. A lot of green flowered Paphs are being marketed as "Maudiae type", which is NOT the same as being true "Maudiae". I suspect that the word "type" has been dropped somewhere along the line.....leaving the impression that this is true Maudiae (callosum x lawrenceanum), which it is not. Essentially, these beautiful flowers are NoIDs.

As a comparison, have a look at my Maudiae 'The Queen' AM/AOS, from another thread here at ST.
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According to John M et Slipperking, this plant was not a Maudea and not Maudiae. But I afther this information I change the title post for paph fake maudiae...

Also i made a little research on the web and i found at paramountorchids website a other paph with some caracteristics like my noid paph. It look like a Paphiopedilum Hsinying Onyx HKS 361. But my eyes was not very well. Lets my know if is it a Hsinying or not ?
 
Paphiopedilum Hsinying Onyx HKS 361 has no venustum in it's background either. Try again or leave it as NOID
 
I will let him as NoId!!! So i'm not able to change the name of the post. If someone can do'it!?
 
The spotting on the petals indicates that an albinistic Paph sukhakulii in the background a generation or two back. Many of these Maudiae types are combinations of 4 or 5 species in various combinations, but primarily influenced by callosum and lawrenceanum (Maudiae).
 
Paphiopedilum Hsinying Onyx HKS 361 has no venustum in it's background either. Try again or leave it as NOID

Rick, a number of species have varying amounts of veining on the pouch; just not nearly as prominent as venustum. In these other species, the normal colour of the pouch masks the veining; so, we hardly consider the fact that it is there. However, the albinistic colour forms allow the veining to show through to varying degrees. So, this doesn't have to have venustum in the background. It could be sukhakulii....in fact, I think that sukhakulii is a very likely species to be a grand parent or a great grand parent because of the shape of the dorsal along with the wide, flat petals. The thing is, we will never know for sure. This flower looks like an albinistic, complex hybrid and it is impossible to properly identify complex hybrids once they lose their tags. However, it's a well grown plant with beautiful flowers and it's certainly worthy of a place in any collection....as long as it's not used for breeding!
 
Look at the 2nd PIC.....the leaves say venustum or wardii IMHO. Suk is in the background of the plant he wanted to name it but i don't think this NoID looks anything like the plant he pointed to.
 
The foliage is reminiscent of Paph venustum, but the flower doesn't show it. Perhaps it is in the background as well as sukhakulii and the others....Often these kinds of hybrids will show quite varied mottling from plant to plant.
 
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