paphiopedilum bougainvilleanum and wentworthianum in Europe

[honai]

Hello, Does someone know if seedling of paphiopedilum bougainvilleanum and wentworthianum are available in Europe and where we could find it.
Thank for your answers.

 

[Dido]

Have you asked at Popow

 

[honai]

yes, no have yet

 

[Paul]

very hard to find... and to grow, said by a French vendor. He has one and promised me a division of wentworthianum by... 2014 at least, slow, slow growing lol

 

[SelectOrchids]

Wentworthianum, all the ones alive today came from a single collection made in 2006. None from before that survived, except 2 plants, and it was at a time where Solomons were not a CITES member. Paul Gripp imported about 3000 plants in the early 80's, and we can clearly see today the benefit of propagation in captivity. They are ALL dead, no progeny, nothing.

Boungainvilleanum and saskianum, same story, but two collections, one 1995, one 2006. No one is going to go there again before long to pick up plants, so it is very unlikely anyone will have those species in the coming years. Plus the seller of wentworthianum was crazy like hell, he wanted to kill and rape everyone after the deal.

 

[dodidoki]

Hello, Does someone know if seedling of paphiopedilum bougainvilleanum and wentworthianum are available in Europe and where we could find it.
Thank for your answers.

All I know that NOBODY could produce these two species till this time. All of young plants were sold as bougainvilleanums or wentworthianums turned to another species, dayanum or mastersianum ( Hilmar Bauch wrote me a letter proudly about a year ago, that his wentworthianum will bloom soon. He promised me to send a photo of flower, and some weeks later I got a message: his plant is a mastersianum......
I have one bougainvilleanum and wentworthianum, but I think all of them are fake ones.
I think the fate will be sililar to papuanum (zieckianum). It is relatively common species in few places of Papua but noone can reproduce it arteficially.I think we can wrote beside the name of wentworthianum: "lost forever".