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I just don’t understand it. I know people are hungry but for the prices charged, we could feed those folks and inspire them to protect these plants. I do see that rungsuriyianum is showing up now as seedlings. I guess that’s good even if they’re illegal. No idea the status of canhilii in cultivation but yup, still obvious wild plants on eBay. Saw nataschae on eBay a few weeks ago. Just can’t believe it. Those jungle plants don’t do well and then we lose it all. Does anybody know his bougainvillieum is doing? This post I copied describes roths and dayanum as “still plentiful” but also noted that someone “places an order for several hundred plants every 6 months, it’s amazing to see.” Also mentions big plants of natural hybrid x-kimballianum ripped out. My heart just crushes. I know CITES is controversial, I don’t understand why they won’t compromise and encourage seed propagation. No one wants a jungle plant that just dies on them.