Phal stuartiana

[couscous74]

Another stuartiana. Taiwanese claim this is the rare yellow form. I have my doubts that this is true species, based on the mottling on foliage being very very very very very faint.

 

[Rick]

Nice Marcus.

Can you show us a pic of the foliage?

 

[SlipperFan]

I think it is authentic.

 

[Hera]

Very pretty!

 

[Ozpaph]

very nice.
show the leaves, please

 

[The Orchid Boy]

It's nice whatever it is.

 

[couscous74]

Took these this morning. The sprinklers were on so the leaves are wet.

 

[NYEric]

Interesting, doesn't Phal stuartiana have mottling, bars of light spots, on the foliage?

 

[The Orchid Boy]

I'm guessing it is Phalaenopsis stuartiana var. nobilis...

 

[biothanasis]

I like it!!!! Is it fragrant?

(but I like the mottled leaves, more, too..)

 

[cnycharles]

the flower looks exactly like the ones on the plant I had from dowery orchids, before I killed it :sob:
the whole group of mottled leaf phals can have strong to weak mottling; I can see some between the water droplet reflections

actually the above isn't quite true; your flowers are nicer than the ones that were on my plant!

 

[naoki]

Charles is right, the P. stuartiana's leaves vary quite a bit (even within an individual). So it looks like authentic species.

This is in Japanese, but if you scroll down to the bottom, the last picture shows 3 different plants of this species with different leaf patterns. The middle one doesn't have the mottling pattern. The left one shows a single plant with two types of leaves
http://www.ranwild.org/Phalaenopsis/module/species/stuartiana/specieshead.html

 

[biothanasis]

Interesting! Generally, how big are the flowers?

 

[Rick]

Charles is right, the P. stuartiana's leaves vary quite a bit (even within an individual). So it looks like authentic species.

This is in Japanese, but if you scroll down to the bottom, the last picture shows 3 different plants of this species with different leaf patterns. The middle one doesn't have the mottling pattern. The left one shows a single plant with two types of leaves
http://www.ranwild.org/Phalaenopsis/module/species/stuartiana/specieshead.html

I've never seen one so patternless as this. I'm not questioning the authenticicty of the speceis, but rather looking for the justification to give it a varietal status (although it may just be a commercial variety designation).

This one is different from a typical stuartiana:wink:

 

[cnycharles]

the yellow var. nobilis I think was described by eric christenson.

it's one of the things that's a pet peeve for me, how some orchids are easily split into species/varieties etc. for relatively simple things, and then other orchids need three acts of congress to make a distinction for things that are much more obvious. for the possibly extinct phal speciosa there are I think three different varieties, but cyp pubescens (the old name for large yellow ladyslipper) now parviflorum has three different 'varietal forms', for things that if they were being classified by phal or other taxonomists would be quickly split into three different species

just to add I think that the yellow stuartiana is a classic example of a clear-cut variety of a species

 

[naoki]

I've never seen one so patternless as this. I'm not questioning the authenticicty of the speceis, but rather looking for the justification to give it a varietal status (although it may just be a commercial variety designation).

This one is different from a typical stuartiana:wink:

The Japanese collector pays lots of attention to the locality from which the plants originated, so the variations seen there is probably natural variation. The variation of leaf pattern may be influenced by environmental condition since there is a plant which has both mottled & plain leaves. It is interesting that this species doesn't have a wide geographic distribution, but there are variations in both flowers and leaves. The photo above the leaves is quite interesting, too. The flower has pinkish color (although he is wondering if it is a rare natural hybrid Phal. amphitrite).

 

[couscous74]

the flower looks exactly like the ones on the plant I had from dowery orchids, before I killed it :sob:
the whole group of mottled leaf phals can have strong to weak mottling; I can see some between the water droplet reflections

actually the above isn't quite true; your flowers are nicer than the ones that were on my plant!

I also killed one of these from Dowery. I miss their nursery. I used to really look forward to getting a new sales list.
My stuartiana var. nobilis from Dowery also had faint markings, but I don't remember them being THIS faint. And the flowers weren't as nice.

Biothanasis - the leaves are 5-6 inches long. The flowers are just over 2 inches wide. No fragrance that I could detect, but maybe I am checking at the wrong time of day.

 

[couscous74]

Here's a pic taken this morning with camera phone.

 

[Scott Ware]

The flowers and foliage of this plant look very much like a batch I got from Ching Hua at Redland last year. They had a different lot in 2011 and I was hoping to get more of those, but the ones they had in 2012 look just like this one.

 

[couscous74]

This came from Ching Hua.