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OrchidIsa

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Division from John M. Got it in October 2013, already blooming! I really like it!!!



 
Wow!! Very nice!!! Is it a hybrid?

I honestly can't answer. I know there's been controversy about that plant but I don't know much. For me, it's a beautiful phrag with that name marked on the tag!
 
That's lovely Isabelle! Bravo! Yes, there is debate and controversy. However, the provenance of your plant is as follows: I got it from Wendy. Wendy got it at the SOOS club auction and Alan Tetzlaff donated it to the auction. So, it's a piece of the original type plant used by Olaf to describe the species.
 
Yes, it's a hybrid.

That's not definitive, Eric. We will only know by DNA analysis and/or, when someone manages to get viable seed from a selfing...and grows them up and blooms multiple clones. If there is much variation...it's likely a hybrid. If the flowers are all very similar, it's likely a species.

Whatever it is, it's hard to come by; which hopefully is a situation that will improve. It's a wondeful plant. It's vigorous and it readily produces side branches. It also frequently holds multiple flowers on the same growing point. So, a strong plant with a single stem with 2 side branches can have up to 9 flowers open at the same time! :clap:
 
Wow indeed.

That is one fine plant.

I'm still kicking myself for missing Allan's presentation and plant delivery last year.

Brings to mind the old saying, 'You snooze, you lose!'
 
Someone could dry for me a leaf of this plant in silica gel? A leaf of the hybrid registeted by you John would be more than welcome.
 
Someone could dry for me a leaf of this plant in silica gel? A leaf of the hybrid registeted by you John would be more than welcome.

Sorry Eliseo, I no longer have that plant. When I was so sick and dropped out of the Orchid world (for 4 years), my collection suffered terribly. The plants were lucky to be watered. About half of my plants died and that Phrag was one of them. If a piece of that clone still exists, it's in Allan's collection; but, therein lies the beginning of the controversy......
 
That's not definitive, Eric. We will only know by DNA analysis and/or, when someone manages to get viable seed from a selfing...and grows them up and blooms multiple clones. If there is much variation...it's likely a hybrid. If the flowers are all very similar, it's likely a species.

Whatever it is, it's hard to come by; which hopefully is a situation that will improve. It's a wondeful plant. It's vigorous and it readily produces side branches. It also frequently holds multiple flowers on the same growing point. So, a strong plant with a single stem with 2 side branches can have up to 9 flowers open at the same time! :clap:

Hi John,
I’m agreeing with you… That plant is very nice and striking when it bare few flowers… It stills a gorgeous plant to have and keep in collection.

You are right, one day we will probably know by DNA analysis...! If somebody work on that!

But there are other ways to know too… As you said by selfing and sibling the plant…
What I’m trying for more than 25 years now… Never got any positive results…
For me this situation gives me already some clue, a characteristic found in 3n plants not a characteristic found in any species…

With my experience in breeding, species are very easy to set pods and give by thousands viable seeds.

I’m still working with it, I should count one day how many attempts I made with it....
 

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