Question about barbigerum

[eggshells]

I have a barbigerum that is currently in bud. However, the bract nor the bud has no pigment. Does that mean that its an album?

Cross is barbigerum x barbigerum fma. aureum 'War Eagle'. I cant tell if the basal leaves or axil has pigment because its covered with moss and algae but I think there is no pigment because the new shoots are green but still small. I believe it's one of Ross (Paphreek) crosses.

I cant wait and I'm dying to know. Might not be able to see it as I'm going on vacation for 5 weeks in December.

 

[Ross]

If the bud shows no dark spots or hairs, it is most likely the album form. Did you get the plant from Oak Hill or Orchid Inn?

 

[eggshells]

Hi Ross. It has hairs but no dark spots on the bract. I got it from OI.

 

[Mocchaccino]

Congratulations! Not sure yet until the flower opens up I think but it has a high chance!

 

[NYEric]

Another person gets an album! :sob:

 

[Ozpaph]

one parent was fma aureum so it likely to be light coloured

 

[eggshells]

What do you guys think? Or too early to tell?

 

[Cheyenne]

The stem sure looks like it. If its not a true album it might be aureum. I cant tell from the pic, but does the base of the plant have any color or speckles?

 

[eggshells]

Not really, the colouration at the base is just stain. From the potting mix or algae.

 

[Cheyenne]

Thats what I thought. I remember reading on woodstream and a few other sites about barbigerum, and it seems like the albums pip up alot more frequently than with other species. So maybe even some of the colored ones have been bred with albums so they carry the album gene. I think it is album. Woodstreams site says the aureum is more rare than the album, so I don't know which to hope it is. I just bought a flask of semi-album x album. Hopefully I get a few albums too.

 

[SlipperKing]

'War Eagle' is Ross's clone people. Do a search and you'll see were Ross got a AQ for this cross. ...................All albums!

Of course he doesn't mention 'War Eagle' LOL
http://www.slippertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17803&highlight=barbigerum

 

[Hakone]

What do you guys think? Or too early to tell?

albino

 

[SelectOrchids]

Thats what I thought. I remember reading on woodstream and a few other sites about barbigerum, and it seems like the albums pip up alot more frequently than with other species. So maybe even some of the colored ones have been bred with albums so they carry the album gene. I think it is album. Woodstreams site says the aureum is more rare than the album, so I don't know which to hope it is. I just bought a flask of semi-album x album. Hopefully I get a few albums too.

Ross cross is indeed the real, genuine barbigerum from China, not the coccineum or this kind of things from Vietnam...

There has been two wild barbigerum album ever found, one very weak one that went to the USA, and another one that went to Taiwan. I know that the weak one has been crossed with a normal, high quality barbigerum in the early 90's, before it eventually died. The flasks were released in quite a bit number, and it is likely that many barbigerum in the market carry the albinism of that alba barbigerum.

Barbigerum is really rare, and since 15 years I have never seen a single wild collected plant of it, so people put their hands on the blooming size barbigerum available, and selfed/ sibbed it, getting eventually back the albino.

I have to confess one thing too, in France I did some delenatii for Klinge, and some were delenatii x delenatii album. They bloomed as regular delenatii of course, but I kept only the 10 best shaped ones, the remaining I sold them wholesale as delenatii ( growers do not care in Europe about the 'carry the albinism trait' or whatever...), so if anyone self any of those delenatii, he will get some albino ones for sure, but it is not mentioned on the plants... I think for the barbigerum it is the same story.

There should be some urbanianum album in the USA in a similar fashion too...

 

[Hakone]

I just heard abou Paph zieckianum album in indonesia

 

[Ross]

Roth is right. My cross was fma. aureum x normal color with half aureum genes, which I was unaware of when I made the cross. I had expected that I would have to do a second sib cross to get aureums.

 

[eggshells]

Roth is right. My cross was fma. aureum x normal color with half aureum genes, which I was unaware of when I made the cross. I had expected that I would have to do a second sib cross to get aureums.

Are you still continuing or doing this cross? I think it is very nice.

 

[NYEric]

Deff. album Eggshells. Ross, dont forget an album for me!

 

[eggshells]

Deff. album Eggshells. Ross, don't forget an album for me!

I bought this as a coloratum version. Bonus if it indeed turns out an album or better yet, aureum variety.

 

[NYEric]

that's what the people here said about their albums also. Mine was not album though.

 

[Ross]

Are you still continuing or doing this cross? I think it is very nice.

Yes I am. Unfortunately, the first sib cross of aureums was lost when Kelsey Creek went out of business. Another flasker was able to pick up some material from Kelsey Creek, including an aureum x 1/2 aureum cross. I am waiting for an update on their condition.