Real parnatatum opened

[dodidoki]

I know rarely seen, many plants are offered under this name but they are mainy bullenianum hybrids.Here is a real parnatatum, I bought as a seedling 4 years ago, it is first time bloomer that is why its pouch slightly deformed. It has 3 new starting growth, I hope next time flower will be perfect.

 

[reivilos]

Next time don't peek it open !!!
Flower is far from being mature.

 

[dodidoki]

Maybe you has right, I try to peek its secret on that side where pouch is deformed, it is true. But I was very excited if it is valid or fake ones. I don't mind it, a deformed real one is more valualbe than a perfect fake one .... at least for me. Next time I will know the truth.

 

[SlipperFan]

The potential is there!

 

[SlipperKing]

Finally the real parnatatum stood up! Nice going!

 

[tim]

not seeing a huge difference between this and wardii...

 

[Stone]

Also looks like it has affinites with argus.

 

[Rick]

not seeing a huge difference between this and wardii...

Except its from the Philippines and not Burma.

Some of the better pics of this species show reticulations on the pouch (like venustum or argus) rather than fine spotting like wardii.

 

[Rick]

Also looks like it has affinites with argus.

I agree. This species is found not too far from argus. This could be an argus if you take out the red and break up the petal spots into this multitude of fine spotting.

 

[NYEric]

We need a close-up.

 

[dodidoki]

We need a close-up.

Sorry my camera got wrong, doesn't work at all and no chance to repair. I usually make my photoes with my wife's little camera, this is the reason of "quality". I plan to buy a Nikon D3200 camera just I collect money for that.

Otherwise flower is different from argus, no spots on flag (argus has) and spotts are much smaller on laterals.
About wardii, plant is ablsolutely different just you look at leaves tessellations.


I think plant is closer to argus than wardii.

 

[Rick]

I think plant is closer to argus than wardii.

Maybe confusion over meaning of the term "closer".

Genetically or evolution/related?

Or just looks like?

Sure it looks a lot like a wardii, but not likely evolutionary derived from wardii since geographically way to far apart (with mountains and ocean in between).

However since found on the same island as argus, looks close enough to be a "kissin' cousin". If it looked too close to argus then there could be problems with pollinators keeping the two species apart. I think argus tends to bloom more in spring too. I don't know enough about this species to know if it normall blooms in winter.

 

[dodidoki]

Maybe confusion over meaning of the term "closer".

Genetically or evolution/related?

Or just looks like?

Sure it looks a lot like a wardii, but not likely evolutionary derived from wardii since geographically way to far apart (with mountains and ocean in between).

However since found on the same island as argus, looks close enough to be a "kissin' cousin". If it looked too close to argus then there could be problems with pollinators keeping the two species apart. I think argus tends to bloom more in spring too. I don't know enough about this species to know if it normall blooms in winter.

"closer" I mean morphologically. Genetically or evolutionary I don't know. I saw all of three species and they are definitely different from each other. I don't know too much about parnatatum, I have this only one for 4 years, fortunately grows well, till this time I had many doubt if it is real one or
not because most of "parnatatum" I have seen before on forums or anywhere turned to be bullenianum hybrid.