Well so far I've contacted Tom Kalina and Orchids Limited. I contacted The Plant House, they referred me to Dr. Clark Riley, he referred me to Parkside Orchids. So far nothing. They either have never heard of the cross, their plant died of rot, or they don't have it anymore. Who are some others to contact that may by the slightest chance have this cross? I may even take a flask, seedling, or plant rather than just pollinia because that would be faster than remaking the primary hybrid, wait for first blooms and then cross pollinate. But if it comes to that I will do it. I'll get this hybrid one way or another no matter how long it takes!