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[SlipperKing]

Here's one for you to ponder over

It's suppose to be a primary cross and it came from Ray Rands back in the 90's. This is the first time for it to bloom on a single growth. Once the spike started up, two side growths emerged. One flower for this first effort. Any guesses?

 

[Drorchid]

hmm that is an interesting one. I first was going to say Paph. platyphyllum as one of the parents (due to the pouch), but the plant looks too small, so I am not too sure about this one. The other parent I was going to say Paph. adductum (or anitum) due to the dark dorsal.

What the heck I will still go for platyphyllum x adductum

Robert

 

[nikv]

And here I thought I was the only person to have a Paph seedling from Ray Rands that has yet to bloom. I have Paph gratrixianum x liemianum. It has multiple growths. But it has yet to bloom. Your Paph is lovely. I'm guessing it's topperi x adductum. And I'm only guessing because he seemed fond of those species.

 

[SlipperKing]

Nice guesses guys but that's not what the tag says. I'm acturally a bit shock of the outcome myself. BTW, that is a 4 inch air cone pot.

 

[emydura]

My guess is wilhiminiae x adductum.

David

 

[Drorchid]

Did I have them both wrong?? :sob:

In that case, supardii x philippinense??

Robert

 

[JeanLux]

I have no talent for this, but starting from my gardineri ( = wilhelminae), would say wilh. x phil.? Jean

 

[Elena]

My guess is wilhiminiae x adductum.

David

That's what I thought too.

 

[SlipperFan]

randsii x wilhelminae?

 

[paphioboy]

(Glanduliferum x supardii)..?

 

[rdlsreno]

adductum by randsii

Ramon

 

[SlipperKing]

As I mentioned, I'm a bit shocked about the outcome. The tag says roth 'Rex' X glanduliferum. I can see the glanduliferum but where's the roth?

So it's Susan Booth

 

[Roy]

Rick, no roth' at all in this plant. Not Susan Booth. I think previous guesses at the parents are closer.

 

[emydura]

Doesn't look like a Susan Booth to me either. Can you give us a front on shot. The current angles makes it hard to tell.

David

 

[John M]

I see a bit of roth in the pouch shape, as well as it's got a bit of the typical roth "bee's knee" influence going on with the staminode. I think it's a roth hybrid crossed with praestans. It could be a very dark St. Swithin (roth x philippinense) x praestans. The dark coloured stripes on the dorsal could be from a good philippinense. Plus, the flower shape has a very praestans look about it and praestans would bring the flower count down from what you'd normally get on a St. Swithin. Also, it's entirely possible that somebody with a little bit of knowledge (which is usually dangerous.....total ignorance and undeniable expertise, are always preferable), mislabelled a St. Swithin as pure roth.

 

[SlipperKing]

I pulled up Dot's posting of her Susan Booth, here it is.

and compare it with my newest blooming, here

I can see strong resemblances between the two But a very different glanduliferum must of been used in my plant. Is there anyone here familar with Ray Rands' breeding stock?

 

[John M]

Wow! That is interesting. Now, I'm inclined to just accept it as Susan Booth and reject what I posted earlier about it possibly having St. Swithin as a parent. This is the problem with the glanduliferum complex in hybridizing. I'm a splitter for the simple (horticultural), reason that the different "varieties" give different results when used as parents. A botanist may be right to lump things together....I don't know; but, as a horticulturalist, not a botanist, I see differences when different varieties are used in breeding. Therefore, I favour spliting the varieties into separate species...at least for horticultural purposes including hybrid name registration.

Hmmmm? These awesome flowers make me hanker for a Susan Booth or two...or three! I don't have any of these any more. Must fix that. It's a beautiful hybrid....in all its various forms.

 

[SlipperFan]

I think they are twins!

 

[Roy]

I have to go back to previous post by members to say that if anything, it may be a hybrid from Susan Booth but definitely too different to be a Susan Booth. The petal shape and coloring of the flower from the multitude of Susan Booths highlights the influence of another plant.

 

[emydura]

It would be nice to see a photo like Dots but from what I can make out, I'm not prepared to say it isn't a Susan Booth. Due to the large differences in morphology of the praestans parent, it is a pretty variable hybrid. I wouldn't say Dot's plant is typical of most Susan Booths I've seen either. The petal stance in particular is unusual in both of these. But the pouch looks almost identical to my Susan Booth as does the top of the petals. The dorsal of this plant seems to have more of a wilhiminiae influence though.

David