d'allesandroi

[tomkalina]

Here's a photo of our Phrag. d'alessandroi 'Fox Valley' CHM/AOS. This flower was sent to it's discoverer (Dr. Cal Dodson) before it's award could be confirmed, and he identified it as the true species. There are a lot of plants around that are labeled d'alessandroi that are really the natural hybrid Phrag. Jersey (besseae x d'alessandroi).

 

[NYEric]

I need to get some of these, thanks for the photos.

 

[tomkalina]

We selfed the CHM/AOS clone and have seedlings listed on the website......www.foxvalleyorchids.com

 

[Cheyenne]

It is always nice to see that dalessandroi Tom. Is it possible to show your mother plant of dalessandroi next to a regular besseae for plant comparison?

 

[tomkalina]

Hi Cheyenne,

Here is a photo of our Ph. besseae 'Red Giant' and Ph. d'alessandroi 'Fox Valley' CHM/AOS clones taken this afternoon. Both are two growth plants. The besseae clone is in the foreground; it's old flowered growth has a fifteen inch leaf span and shows fairly typical rhizome separation for this strain. The Phrag. d'alessandroi clone is in the background. It's old flowered growth has a twenty-five inch leaf span. The photo also shows the close proximity of the rhizomes which is typical for d'alessandroi. The camera angle doesn't show the difference in leaf spans too well, but the measurements are accurate.

 

[ehanes7612]

I have several besseas putting out second and third growths in Which there is no visible rhizome

 

[tomkalina]

This one characteristic is variable among different clones of Phrag. besseae, and it's only one of the defining characteristics of d'alessandroi. For a definitive answer, I'd suggest contacting Dr. Dodson and/or sending him one of your flowers for verification. When he did our ID for the CHM/AOS, he was at Selby Gardens in Sarasota.

 

[ehanes7612]

I am not too concerned about it. Thanks though

 

[limuhead]

Here's a photo of our Phrag. d'alessandroi 'Fox Valley' CHM/AOS. This flower was sent to it's discoverer (Dr. Cal Dodson) before it's award could be confirmed, and he identified it as the true species. There are a lot of plants around that are labeled d'alessandroi that are really the natural hybrid Phrag. Jersey (besseae x d'alessandroi).

Interesting, I was under the impression that Dennis D'Alessandro discovered Phrag. dalessandroi. I have a batch that I got from Kai Quintal, who got them from Dennis. I was lucky enough to spend 3 or 4 days hanging out with Dennis and Kai, drinking beer and talking about plants with them. The ones that I saw, were I am pretty sure were the 'real McCoy' were not any larger than besseae but the leaves were thicker, wider and just seemed more rugged. You might be surprised how much difference there is when you see them side by side.

 

[tomkalina]

The species was named for Dennis, but described by Cal Dodson and Olaf Gruss.

 

[limuhead]

http://www.slipperorchids.info/phragdatasheets/besseae/index.html

 

[tomkalina]

Got it......Dot's d'alessandroi (see attached - from a previous posting) is typical of what we are seeing today and very similar to our CHM/AOS clone......