Johanna Burkhardt 'Ella'

cattmad · Sep 15, 2015

SlipperKing said:
You may want to look at this old post. It could give you a different perspective on the id of your plant.
http://www.slippertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25467

I know exactly what you mean Rick, but that's how the plant came labelled from the hilo orchid farm.

Crazy AOS caused this

Justin · Sep 15, 2015

any time you see "Dark _____" as the clonal name for adductum you can bet it is var. anitum as is the case here.

SlipperKing · Sep 15, 2015

Yes, the US gov't and the AOS together created deceitful misrepresentation of hybrids. Impatient growers run to judging with these Wossner Black Wings labelled as JBs just to get a selfish award. Then a guy like me comes along with a true JB and can't get the time of day let alone get an award quality plant looked at.
The same outcome but with different beginings occur with Susan Booths. In the late 90's/ early 2000's all these dark S. Booths were being awarded with wilheminiae as a parent. Now known as Wm. Ambler.
Another case, a friend got a hangianum X malipo awarded with an AM under the false name Larry Heuer. Same crap, he should of waited.

cattmad · Sep 15, 2015

SlipperKing said:
Yes, the US gov't and the AOS together created deceitful misrepresentation of hybrids. Impatient growers run to judging with these Wossner Black Wings labelled as JBs just to get a selfish award. Then a guy like me comes along with a true JB and can't get the time of day let alone get an award quality plant looked at.
The same outcome but with different beginings occur with Susan Booths. In the late 90's/ early 2000's all these dark S. Booths were being awarded with wilheminiae as a parent. Now known as Wm. Ambler.
Another case, a friend got a hangianum X malipo awarded with an AM under the false name Larry Heuer. Same crap, he should of waited.

I understand your frustration, but I disagree that the growers are to blame for this ******** situation. The AOS were the ones who decided they had a moral obligation to uphold a law the rest of the world saw as crap.

Why should a grower wait for an award of a clearly exceptional plant because the management of the AOS see themselves as plant cops instead of accepting the plant for what they are.

For example the jb's were imported in flask as roth x adductum var anitum. In the years of growing anitum was upgraded to species status but the AOS refused to recognise that these were now roth x anitum and therefore declded they would not judge the plants if labeled as wossner black wings. Absolutely the fault of the AOS.