manzurii x richteri

[eteson]

Phrag schlimii fma. manzurii x richteri

It was submitted for registration today as: "Phragmipedium Paz en Colombia" to celebrate the peace agreement signed two weeks ago ending with 60 years of war in this country.

 

[NYEric]

Doesn't look like a Wossen! Yay Phrag manzurii hybrids!

 

[eteson]

Doesn't look like a Wossen! Yay Phrag manzurii hybrids!

Someone here (Dot?) posted a nice wössen almost white.... this is the yellow version.

 

[trdyl]

Lovely!

Does this one like to be on the wetter or drier side?

 

[Happypaphy7]

What a color combo!

 

[orchidman77]

really beautiful green/pink/white!!!

David

 

[eteson]

Lovely!

Does this one like to be on the wetter or drier side?

I grow them in SH with high light levels and they are growing fine.

 

[eaborne]

Very interesting and great to see!

 

[Erythrone]

Great!!! And I love the name!!

 

[mrhappyrotter]

Definitely not what I was expecting to see color-wise, but I'm glad the green/yellow comes through so strongly. It makes for a very beautiful flower.

 

[Silvan]

This is very interesting! Is the colour stable with that cross or it's an oddity?
You must be psyched! Since the cross didn't produce a "wössen" type flower,
would you reconsider the status of manzurii as a species instead of a variety?

What else have you cross your manzurii with? caudatum, boissierianum or longifolium album maybe?
A yellow version of the Court Jester would be awesome, ...

 

[Phrag-Plus]

Very interesting! I like the colouration...

 

[eteson]

This is very interesting! Is the colour stable with that cross or it's an oddity?
You must be psyched! Since the cross didn't produce a "wössen" type flower,
would you reconsider the status of manzurii as a species instead of a variety?

What else have you cross your manzurii with? caudatum, boissierianum or longifolium album maybe?
A yellow version of the Court Jester would be awesome, ...

Hi silvan it is the first plant to bloom but i think that the color should be stable. Do not get your point... I cannot see differences with wossen (only the coloration)... at least with the wossen I do have In my collection. (Made with a typical schlimii)
In my opinion manzurii is a fma. of schlimii... the only real diference is the green-yellow color.
I am registering it beasuse I think that it is important to keep the crosses of the diferent vars. recorded with diferent names.

Yes we do have plenty of crosses with manzurii in the lab... but I not have Court Jester... it is a very good idea to cross manzurii x warsczewicxianum boissierianum...
recently we also registered manzurii x longifolium and it is a Sedenii with green DS.

 

[Silvan]

Ok I understand. I meant, Beside the colour and the type of leaves (Wössen as more of a grasslike foliage) there isn't enough difference to this cross compared to Wössen (and other crosses made with manzurii) to say that manzurii could stand as it's own species.

Sorry, english is not my first language (nor my second when I think of it)

PS: repot your plant. The foliage looks suspecious...

 

[SlipperFan]

Great!!! And I love the name!!

Very interesting! I like the colouration...

I agree! I'd love to have this cross.

 

[Migrant13]

Good color outcome for this cross and very deserving name.

 

[abax]

I love the soft colors of this flower and the graceful shape
as well.

 

[NYEric]

It's a shame that color variation is not a quality that qualifies a plant as a distinctive species, otherwise it would show that manzurii is separate/distinct from schlimii.

 

[Happypaphy7]

If they are consistently different in a stable way, then at least it could be regarded as a variety within the same species.
All these classification. lol

Apparently, they breed differently.

 

[eteson]

It's a shame that color variation is not a quality that qualifies a plant as a distinctive species, otherwise it would show that manzurii is separate/distinct from schlimii.

You are very true, color does not qualifies... fortunately... can you imagine in the world of catleyas such mesh of species?:rollhappy:

If they are consistently different in a stable way, then at least it could be regarded as a variety within the same species.
All these classification. lol
Apparently, they breed differently.

Each plant breeds a little bit different... if you tke a thin leaved schlimii (the classic one) for breeding you will have grass like plants when crossed with pearcei or richteri but the "new" thick leaved schlimii or the fma. manzurii will give you this kind of plants... the flower is almost identical in shape to my other wossen the only one rela difference is the nice coloration in this cross...

Check the cross "Manzur la aldea" and you will see that it is a nicely coloured Hanne Popow, check the Phrag Professor Guido Braem and you will see that it is a Sedenii with yellow-green tones...

We consider manzurii as a form but you are right it could have been considered a var.