Paph. concolor var longipetalum

[e-spice]

Thanks for posting the picture. I like the regular version of concolor much better but longipetalum is interesting.

e-spice

 

[Drorchid]

Robert - are these as easy to grow as the nornal form of concolor? There has been talk previously that longipetalum is slower and more difficult.

David

I don't have too much experience with growing these my self. We just have a few plants, but Yes I think they probably are slower and more difficult than the regular form.

Robert

 

[P-chan]

I'm so psyched! I have this plant( very small) I can't wait for it to bloom, since I think it's beautiful!! Thanks for the photos!

 

[goldenrose]

Robert - are these as easy to grow as the nornal form of concolor? There has been talk previously that longipetalum is slower and more difficult. David

wouldn't this be a good reason to X it with a regular concolor?
OK so lets hear it - what would you cross it with & why?

 

[Kavanaru]

wouldn't this be a good reason to X it with a regular concolor?
OK so lets hear it - what would you cross it with & why?

ok, a shot to the sky from my side I have seen that so far nobody has provided an answer... so let's try waht I would do... First, as I have mentionned before, I am no very "fit" woth Paphies, as I have starded with them just recently...

I would cross it with Paphiopedilum druryi... I really like the central dark stripes in both plants, but do not like very much the shape of the variety of concolor (even though, I think it is flatter than druyii). I would expect a plant rather compacter than druyii, which (at least for me) would be a big plus. Flowers, should stay more or less on the same size, but probably the stems would be stronger for a better presentation. I am not sure whether this variety can be multi-flowered, but if so, and this can be inherited, then I have another plus... I would also expect an improve in the color, becoming more intense than in concolor...

ok, here we go with my first "theoretical" experiment in hybridization of Paphies... I would appreciate very much any comments... even if they are to tell me this would be the biggest "Dog" in the world

 

[NYEric]

Paph druryi = difficult to bloom
Paph concolor v. longipetalum = difficult to grow
Have fun! :evil:

 

[Kavanaru]

Paph druryi = difficult to bloom
Paph concolor v. longipetalum = difficult to grow
Have fun! :evil:

LOL as I said.. a shot to the sky... and on the other side, I did not say it would be an easy plant LOL oke:

 

[PaphMadMan]

Paph druryi = difficult to bloom
Paph concolor v. longipetalum = difficult to grow
Have fun! :evil:

Druid Spring x concolor v. longipetalum then...

 

[PaphMadMan]

wouldn't this be a good reason to X it with a regular concolor?
OK so lets hear it - what would you cross it with & why?

Any brachy or brachy influenced hybrid, especially with concolor in the background.

 

[Kavanaru]

Druid Spring x concolor v. longipetalum then...

wow, yes... specially with Slipperfan's plant

 

[bench72]

someone here should do a post or thread detailing this plant Paph slippertalkii. and then we can start calling it that and maybe one day when the rest of the world agrees there will be a paph species named after the forum

(course if someone already has also named this plant something else.. there goes the plan)

 

[SlipperFan]

someone here should do a post or thread detailing this plant Paph slippertalkii. and then we can start calling it that and maybe one day when the rest of the world agrees there will be a paph species named after the forum

Oooooooooooo -- I like that idea!

 

[cnycharles]

the flower looks like someone sprayed it with Fascination(tm)

 

[Rick]

I must express a dissenting opinion. Man-made hybrids can't possibly confuse the classification unless someone is stupid enough to accept classification based on plants that are not wild collected. It is bad science and shouldn't get passed peer review, and if it does get published it should be publicly ridiculed.

This species or variety will give interesting flower forms in brachy hybrids, including with concolor, and I hope someone is making those crosses.

I think the issue is that man-made hybrids invariably confuse everyone 10 years down the road when all the labels are lost or illegible, and the zillions of non documented pot plant inter grades are being passed off as one species/variety or another.

 

[Rick]

Robert

Is there any population data for this "variety".


I also agree, based on looks, that this flower is different enough from a regular concolor to get species status. But if its just a goofy sport in the middle of a stand of regular concolor, then it could be just as much a "new species" as an albino is to its nominal form.

 

[PaphMadMan]

I think the issue is that man-made hybrids invariably confuse everyone 10 years down the road when all the labels are lost or illegible, and the zillions of non documented pot plant inter grades are being passed off as one species/variety or another.

The point is, no one should be using such plants for taxonomic purposes. Lost tags and misrepresented plants are a problem for every variety, hybrid or clone, and any brachy hybrid could be passed off as a species. That isn't a reason not to make hybrids.

 

[cnycharles]

is the variety 'striatum' different from the variety 'longipetalum'? Michael Ooi's company will be bringing some striatum to the redlands orchid festival (fyi)

 

[Renegayde]

not sure if this is a typical bloom photo but.... http://cgi.ebay.com/Paphiopedilum-c...ryZ42218QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[raymond]

very nice diff

 

[Drorchid]

Robert

Is there any population data for this "variety".


I also agree, based on looks, that this flower is different enough from a regular concolor to get species status. But if its just a goofy sport in the middle of a stand of regular concolor, then it could be just as much a "new species" as an albino is to its nominal form.

I am not too familiar with this variety of concolor. Olaf wrote an article about it:
http://www.orchid.or.jp/orchid/people/tanaka/orchid/org/shinshu/enshinshu44.html
so maybe he has some more info.

Robert