Paph. helenae fma. aureum

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When I check their eBay store it always says 0 items! I'm probably too slow. :(
I will contact Bob to see what [hard to find] species he has. One day I'm ;going to post all the plants I have just so I can watch the CITES polices heads explode! :mad:
 
P. helenae is really beautiful and it's fma. aureum is like the icing on the cake.
I second your statement - they are easy to grow and reliable bloomers and the flowers are huge compared to the plant size.

Best regards from Germany, GuRu
 
That is sweet!

Cities!:mad: -- but maybe the problem isn't cities, it is the US Government's interpretation, apparently, since other countries don't have this problem.
 
P. helenae is really beautiful and it's fma. aureum is like the icing on the cake.
I second your statement - they are easy to grow and reliable bloomers and the flowers are huge compared to the plant size.

Best regards from Germany, GuRu

This one has smaller flowers (3cm wide, 4cm high) than the other one I saw in exhibition, but it's also more albinic! :)
 
Nicely grown, Paul. I sure wish we had easier access to artificially propagated varieties of this species. At least Bob W. is able to occasionally release a legal helenae to our market as they grow up.
 
"CITES! -- but maybe the problem isn't CITES, it is the US Government's interpretation, apparently, since other countries don't have this problem."

I think that you've hit the nail on the head there, Dot. It's really unfortunate; but, the US government has REALLY gotten anal about being the flower police and it's your civil liberties that are suffering because of it. Like other countries, Canada does not restict anything as long as they enter the country in flask. We use an interpretation of CITES that is more in line with the intension....to help preserve and protect wild plants by encouraging artificial propagation and wide distribution of desirable varieties. Therefore, flasks of all plants are exempt from CITES restrictions.

Unfortunately, as I understand it, the US government injects politics into their interpretation of CITES by saying that if the indigenous country has not specifically allowed the export of seeds, flasks or plants of a particular species, then, it is illegal for US growers to have them. The only way around this (I think), is when illegal plants or flasks are confiscated and the USDA decides to send them to a rescue centre, where eventually, they may be propagated and allowed to be legally distributed. However, that still means that you guys have to wait many years after the rest of the world has plants, to get your own legal plants.....and that puts your breeders and hybridizers at a competative disadvantage on the world stage.

As a Canadian, who doesn't have any difficulty in finding legal plants of any species that I want (because they are all legal - in flask), I have often wondered how and why the US government has gotten it's knickers in a knot about what flowers people grow.....especially when incoming flasks means that more is being done to preserve a species, which is the whole point of CITES. The whole idea of CITES is that if wild collected plants (which obviously cannot be put in flask), are not being exported from the country of origin, then, the only way for the rest of the world to get these plants is to encourage artificial propagation and the international movement of flasks....and that's a good thing from a preservation point of view. However, for some reason, the US government doesn't see it that way. I read a lot of complaints on this forum about plants being "illegal" in the USA...and it all seems so incredibly silly that you're all stuck with these rules. It's government out of control. I sure hope that you all get things changed. With all there is to do, you'd think that the government wouldn't spend so much money and resources on such foolish rules and enforcing them.

Just to emphasize, I'm not saying that I think it's okay to smuggle plants or bring in wild collected plants of CITES protected species. However, flasks are proof that the seedlings inside were never in the wild and since there will always be a market for desirble varieties (legal or not), it just makes sense to have a system in place that allows legal seedlings to trade in the international market, without impacting wild populations.
 
The problem is that a 'little' educatiion is a dangerous thing. The people who enforce the rules probably don't understand the bigger picture and fall back on the rule as justification, enforcing instead of understanding. Hopefully there isn't a profit issue involved also.
 
I agree Eric. That's a very insightful statement. For those of us who understand that CITES is supposed to record and regulate the international movement of rare plants as a means to help protect and ensure the continued existence of wild stocks, it is infuriating to have officials in government who don't understand this; but, they have the authority to make decisions.

In the cases of the so called "illegal" Paphs in the USA, the authorities use CITES as a tool to prohibit everything, rather than what they should do, which is closely regulate the importation of ex-flask plants and especially prohibit the importation of wild collected plants;....but, at the same time, encourage the free and easy importation of flasks. In cases of CITES appendix I plants, where ex-flask plants cannot be proven to be originally artificially propagated (for example, by dealing with a registered, licenced nursery in the indigenous country), then, they too should be prohibited. As long as flasks are allowed easy, CITES-restiction-free entry, the cause of preservation through propagation and distribution is being fulfilled in a useful, sustainable and responsible way.
 
Awesome flower, I have some normal seedlings but really that flower is amazing.

Congratulations!
 
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