Paph. Nicholle Tower

[Drorchid]

Another Paph. Nicholle Tower (rothschildianum x Lynleigh Koopowitz) is in Bloom. This time the flowers are a pastel yellow to pink in color.

This has proven to be a very variable cross; especially when it comes to the flower color. Here are 2 pictures of other seedlings that bloomed previously:

Robert

 

[Kavanaru]

interesting... I like the variation of colour within the different seedling... just imagine th first plant with the pouch of the second

 

[raymond]

very interesting to see the change in the cross, how many of you plant that can flower?

 

[Drorchid]

Thus far we have bloomed 3.

Robert

 

[SlipperFan]

I like the newest one best: soft, subtle coloring.

 

[NYEric]

Me too, but the pouch on the green one has better shape. Thanx for sharing.

BTW, I'm so disappointed, I thought it was Phrag. Nicholle Tower!

 

[biothanasis]

These are all beautiful!!!!!

 

[Candace]

It's interesting how some crosses are so variable and with many crosses all the siblings look very similar.

 

[TyroneGenade]

Hmm... I like this cross. It has a very pleasing (for me anyway) presentation. I like the bold striping and colourful pouch of the 2nd plant (3rd photo). I look forward to the next flowering (I assume this is the 1st flowering).

Is the first plant also multifloral or only the other 2? It is interesting that those with more of a "roth" flower patten also have the multifloral character. As a genetics major I always find the idea of linkage interesting---and useful for breeding purposes.

 

[NYEric]

Hmm, interesting observation; but aren't they genetically identical?

 

[ohio-guy]

As a cross with the same parents, they would be similar, but not identical. As an example look at a human family with the same parents and a lot of kids. Each child may look similar but unless they were multiples from one single egg/sperm, they will not look or be genetically identical.
And sometimes kids in a family can look very different one from another.

Then with this cross, one parent (Lynleigh Koopowitz) is an F1 parent, having a jumble of two species' genes to pass on.

It brings up a question I had for Robert...aren't F2 crosses, even among siblings from the same grex, more variable than F1's? And are F2's harder to produce because their F1 parents were reluctant to produce viable seed?

 

[ohio-guy]

And by the way Robert....that looks like a HUGE flower for the plant size! Do you have quite a few more coming along, or was this a small batch of seedlings from the cross?

 

[Drorchid]

As a cross with the same parents, they would be similar, but not identical. As an example look at a human family with the same parents and a lot of kids. Each child may look similar but unless they were multiples from one single egg/sperm, they will not look or be genetically identical.
And sometimes kids in a family can look very different one from another.

Then with this cross, one parent (Lynleigh Koopowitz) is an F1 parent, having a jumble of two species' genes to pass on.

It brings up a question I had for Robert...aren't F2 crosses, even among siblings from the same grex, more variable than F1's? And are F2's harder to produce because their F1 parents were reluctant to produce viable seed?

You had it basically correct, except for referring it as an F1 or F2

Any time you make a cross (between 2 species, between 2 hybrids or between a hybrid and a species) you create a F1 generation. If you make a cross between 2 species (A and B), all your offspring of the F1 generation are pretty homyzygous meaning there is not much variation from plant to plant, and the plants usually look intermediate between both parents. Now if you sib two plants from that same gene pool to create your F2 generation (F1 x F1) you will get segregation. Some will start looking more like one of the original parents (Species A) or the other original parent (Species B).

Now if you make a cross by crossing a primary hybrid (in this case Lynleigh Koopowitz) onto another species (rothschildianum) your first generation is still considered an F1 generation. Now this time it is different than above, as one of the parents was a hybrid so in this case you already get segregation in your F1 generation, so you will have more variation from plant to plant. In this case if you would sib 2 plants again you would even increase your variation even more.

and yes the flower was pretty big, but I think it was the same size as the other 2 seedlings. This one just had wider petals, making it look even larger, but it is about the same size as a Delrosi.

Robert

 

[NYEric]

THis forum is so edumacational!