Paph virens

[Rick]

I got this plant from Tom Kalina, so maybe he knows the origin?
Based on Leo's foliage description, it sounds very much like virens.

I've seen some pictures of javanica (from Java) and virens. And would agree very similar, but the virens more often than not seems to have a bit more purple in the petals than off Borneo versions.

 

[tomkalina]

Rick,

Your plant's parent came originally from Dick Clements (Birchwood Orchids), who imported a lot of Paph. species back in the day, primarily from two sources: Mr. Atmo Kolopaking (Liem Kie Wie) and a Philippine nursery owned at that time by Mrs. Jacinta Urban Tecson. FYI - the current state of slipper orchid taxonomic affairs would have made Clements more than a little crazy......

 

[Rick]

Pretty cool history. Thanks Tom

 

[Rick]

Rick,

Your plant's parent came originally from Dick Clements (Birchwood Orchids), who imported a lot of Paph. species back in the day, primarily from two sources: Mr. Atmo Kolopaking (Liem Kie Wie) and a Philippine nursery owned at that time by Mrs. Jacinta Urban Tecson. FYI - the current state of slipper orchid taxonomic affairs would have made Clements more than a little crazy......

Do you still have more to sell?

I might need to self this puppy.

 

[tomkalina]

Rick,

I have one or two left, but I'm keeping those to propagate. Glad your's is doing well, though - there aren't many around. The "classic" javanicums, those with the really light green, sharpely tesselated leaves - are almost impossible to find nowadays; at least in the U.S.

 

[Stone]

Yet another one I need.

 

[UweM]

I could be wrong, anyone out there with a 'true' javanicum? That has a verified provenance to a Java origin?

...here are some pictures of Paph. purpurascens (left) and Paph. javanicum (right)

The locality of Paph. purpurascens is not be known - there are different statements about this: Borneo or Sumatra

Paph. javanicum comes from Java, Bali and other small Sunda islands and perhaps from Sumatra

Paph. javanicum with the famous silver-green foliage is hard to find even...



@Rick: can you show us the leaves of the Paph. virens from Borneo?

 

[Susie11]

A beauty!

 

[Rick]

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@Rick: can you show us the leaves of the Paph. virens from Borneo?

Sounds like a weekend project.

 

[likespaphs]

i like that so much more than i thought i would

 

[Leo Schordje]

Uwem
very nice, beautiful plants. The leaves of your javanicum in the last photo do look like the javanicum of old I remember, though I seem to remember seeing even more of a silver border around the outer margin of the leaves, but your plant is similar enough that I can accept that as being the 'true to type' original javanicum. Thank you for posting the photos.

 

[Ozpaph]

The flowers looked really similar to me until you showed the staminode. Much easier to tell they're different, but they must be closely related?

 

[Rick]

The flowers looked really similar to me until you showed the staminode. Much easier to tell they're different, but they must be closely related?

Yup very closely related, (and probably the same species).

In Averyanov's book on Vietnamese paphs he has a figure of staminode shapes for appletonianum (only from Vietnam) populations. The range of shapes is crazy just within what is considered a single species. So in the case of virens, there just isn't enough difference of morphometric characteristics to justify species status.

May need to go to DNA to find it. (If its worth the effort)

 

[Rick]

...here are some pictures of Paph. purpurascens (left) and Paph. javanicum (right)

The locality of Paph. purpurascens is not be known - there are different statements about this: Borneo or Sumatra

Paph. javanicum comes from Java, Bali and other small Sunda islands and perhaps from Sumatra

Paph. javanicum with the famous silver-green foliage is hard to find even...



@Rick: can you show us the leaves of the Paph. virens from Borneo?

Different from all of the above, but with the balance of dark to light green blotching favoring the purperencsis