paphiopedilum delenatii vinicolor

[Hakone]

from friend ( Germany )

 

[biothanasis]

Ohhhhhhh.....!!! So great colour!!!!!

 

[fbrem]

wow that's a lot of color, even on the petals. The pouch looks odd to me, small and set very low, maybe it's the angle. Very nice regardless, great bloom!!!

 

[Hakone]

delenatii pastell

 

[Rick]

I like those super dark flowers

 

[Erythrone]

Your vini is stunning!

 

[SlipperKing]

Both have their charm. Love that vini staminode.

 

[Shiva]

One of the very best I've seen.

 

[Ozpaph]

Lovely.
Are the terms vinicolor and Dunkle interchangeable??

 

[ORG]

The dark colored form of Paph. delenatii was described as
Paphiopedilum delenatii forma vinicolor
The word 'dunkel' was only the german tradename for these dark colored clones and this word means only 'dark'

The plant shown by Hakone was the result of a cross between 2 different clones of Paph. delenatii forma vinicolor and you can see that the result is really a forma vinicolor.

Best greetings

Olaf

 

[SlipperKing]

Dumb taxonomists should of named it forma dunkel. Some of us like it better and it was used first!

 

[ORG]

It was not named by a taxonomist, but it was impossible to use dunkel, because it was not a latin word.
But why don't you like vinicolor? The color of these clones are really like the color of a dark red vine.

Best greetings

Olaf

 

[John M]

Dumb taxonomists should of named it forma dunkel. Some of us like it better and it was used first!

I have to say, I do like "Dunkel" better than "Vinicolour". I like the reference to the German origin of this plant in the hobby. But, it's not something I lose any sleep over. ......And I have to agree that the taxonomists really couldn't have used Dunkel if they wanted to, because the name must be latin. Imagine the uproar if the taxonomists that named this one with a non-latin name. Basically, it wouldn't be recognised as a legitimate name and another taxonomist could come along and rename it......and his name, as long as it was in latin, would become the correct, "legal" name.

 

[Hien]

I too like the word Dunkel , for some unknown reason, it sounds nice to my ears.

 

[SlipperFan]

Vinicolor is Latin?

 

[Hakone]

Wine = Vini = Genitive case. ( Latin )

red color as red wine

 

[chrismende]

I love all this linguistic and taxonomic frenzy we work ourselves up into...

Thanks, Olaf, for the clarification on the origin of that flower's "Uberdunkel!" (add Umlaut as needed...)

 

[Hakone]

Latin is a dead language

For medical school and teachers school you have to learn Latin in Germany . These time is over, nowhere is spoken in Latin.

 

[JeanLux]

Both are beauties Tai!!!! Thanks for showing; you have good friends!!! Jean

 

[Ozpaph]

The dark colored form of Paph. delenatii was described as
Paphiopedilum delenatii forma vinicolor
The word 'dunkel' was only the german tradename for these dark colored clones and this word means only 'dark'

The plant shown by Hakone was the result of a cross between 2 different clones of Paph. delenatii forma vinicolor and you can see that the result is really a forma vinicolor.

Best greetings

Olaf

Thank-you for the explanation.