Phrag besseae flavum

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I purchased this beauty from Woodstream Orchids in October of 2023 as a NBS seedling. Not sure about the parents. Bill only said that Broadwaters is one of them. Given how finicky these can be I was quite surprised when I went looking for when I purchased it at how fast it grew to blooming size. There are three growths, one old and two that have spiked and are now blooming. I can tell you I have killed more than my fair share of these. Hoping I can keep this one going for a long time to come.
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Wow that is sooo pretty. Nice pictures. What makes these challenging? Just besseae being a bit more finicky?
I've found them easier to grow than the red ones... But that might just be the clones I have. For me besseae grows much better under lights, probably because they don't get as hot in the summer.
 
I feel your pain about growing these. I fell in love with ‘Broadwaters’ when I saw it first awarded at a show and later that year bought an original division from Bill. It bloomed beautifully, then deteriorated and died! Now I grow besseae placed in its own saucer with about 1/2” of R/O water (after watering with fert and draining). I rewater, etc. when the saucer is almost dry. And I grow them at ambient room temp under lights. In my grow room with a summer high of 84 F for catts, they would bloom in the winter/spring, then deteriorate and die as temps rose.
I have 2 blooming sized seedlings of besseae flavum ‘Broadwaters’ x self (which is likely what yours is) and they grow well. They are terrible climbers though! That cross produced some really nice ones like yours. I also have a flavum ‘Green Gold’ x self from Tom Kalina. It was tiny, but has slowly grown and is blooming now. I’ll post soon.
 
It doesn't matter if it is a straight red besseae or the flavum variety they are challenging for me to grow. I grow all my phrags in my basement which never goes above 78 degrees in the summer and hovers around 72 degrees maximum in the winter. It looks to me as if this one may not be a climber. I grew the two growths that are blooming now off the original single growth and they are both tight to the first one. I looked yesterday and one of the blooming growths has two tiny starts showing and the other has one start. Right now they both look like they are tight to their respective 'mother' growth. Maybe I got lucky with the genes on this one and it won't start climbing later on. Leaves have a very heavy substance and since I grow in clear pots I can see roots as they develop and there is very strong root growth. Fingers crossed that I hit the jackpot with a strong grower.
What I found with my phrags is that even though they like lots of water they also need lots of oxygen at the roots. I used to pot into a mix that was very heavy with rockwool cubes. I think that in that kind of mix the roots weren't getting enough oxygen. They would grow nicely for about an year and then root health started to decline quite noticeably. Some to the point where they eventually went to orchid heaven.
Now they are potted in a mix that is 1/3 rockwool cubes, 1/2 medium Orchiata bark and 1/3 medium perlite or growstone. This mix has resulted in all of my phrags just exploding with healthy roots. Mixture still retains enough moisture but more oxygen can get to the roots. I also flood them with fertilized RO water at least once a week. Sometimes more often if they are in bud or flower. To water them I take them over to a laundry tub that has a wire rack over it and flood them with a lot of water. I might flush with plain water once a month but due to how I flood them when watering with the fertilized water I don't get any fertilizer build up.
However as we all know what works for one person might not work for others.
 
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It doesn't matter if it is a straight red besseae or the flavum variety they are challenging for me to grow. I grow all my phrags in my basement which never goes above 78 degrees in the summer and hovers around 72 degrees maximum in the winter. It looks to me as if this one may not be a climber. I grew the two growths that are blooming now off the original single growth and they are both tight to the first one. I looked yesterday and one of the blooming growths has two tiny starts showing and the other has one start. Right now they both look like they are tight to their respective 'mother' growth. Maybe I got lucky with the genes on this one and it won't start climbing later on. Leaves have a very heavy substance and since I grow in clear pots I can see roots as they develop and there is very strong root growth. Fingers crossed that I hit the jackpot with a strong grower.
What I found with my phrags is that even though they like lots of water they also need lots of oxygen at the roots. I used to pot into a mix that was very heavy with rockwool cubes. I think that in that kind of mix the roots weren't getting enough oxygen. They would grow nicely for about an year and then root health started to decline quite noticeably. Some to the point where they eventually went to orchid heaven.
Now they are potted in a mix that is 1/3 rockwool cubes, 1/2 medium Orchiata bark and 1/3 medium perlite or growstone. This mix has resulted in all of my phrags just exploding with healthy roots. Mixture still retains enough moisture but more oxygen can get to the roots. I also flood them with fertilized RO water at least once a week. Sometimes more often if they are in bud or flower. To water them I take them over to a laundry tub that has a wire rack over it and flood them with a lot of water. I might flush with plain water once a month but due to how I flood them when watering with the fertilized water I don't get any fertilizer build up.
However as we all know what works for one person might not work for others.
Thanks for the info. Is the Orchiata medium bark the “Power” version, and did you mean to say 1/3 Orchiata?
 
I took another picture that more accurately displays the color. Yesterday was very cloudy here and it presented some issues with getting a good picture. The color came out a little too golden. Today there is sunshine and the color is more accurate being a soft yellow. I always try to get what the plant looks like correct but this time I kind of whiffed. Didn't mean to misrepresent at all.
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I purchased this beauty from Woodstream Orchids in October of 2023 as a NBS seedling. Not sure about the parents. Bill only said that Broadwaters is one of them. Given how finicky these can be I was quite surprised when I went looking for when I purchased it at how fast it grew to blooming size. There are three growths, one old and two that have spiked and are now blooming. I can tell you I have killed more than my fair share of these. Hoping I can keep this one going for a long time to come.
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DIVINE! I have bloomed one and killed two. They just melt right down in Chicago summers. Sigh. Your beauty there makes me hunger to try again.
 
It doesn't matter if it is a straight red besseae or the flavum variety they are challenging for me to grow. I grow all my phrags in my basement which never goes above 78 degrees in the summer and hovers around 72 degrees maximum in the winter. It looks to me as if this one may not be a climber. I grew the two growths that are blooming now off the original single growth and they are both tight to the first one. I looked yesterday and one of the blooming growths has two tiny starts showing and the other has one start. Right now they both look like they are tight to their respective 'mother' growth. Maybe I got lucky with the genes on this one and it won't start climbing later on. Leaves have a very heavy substance and since I grow in clear pots I can see roots as they develop and there is very strong root growth. Fingers crossed that I hit the jackpot with a strong grower.
What I found with my phrags is that even though they like lots of water they also need lots of oxygen at the roots. I used to pot into a mix that was very heavy with rockwool cubes. I think that in that kind of mix the roots weren't getting enough oxygen. They would grow nicely for about an year and then root health started to decline quite noticeably. Some to the point where they eventually went to orchid heaven.
Now they are potted in a mix that is 1/3 rockwool cubes, 1/2 medium Orchiata bark and 1/3 medium perlite or growstone. This mix has resulted in all of my phrags just exploding with healthy roots. Mixture still retains enough moisture but more oxygen can get to the roots. I also flood them with fertilized RO water at least once a week. Sometimes more often if they are in bud or flower. To water them I take them over to a laundry tub that has a wire rack over it and flood them with a lot of water. I might flush with plain water once a month but due to how I flood them when watering with the fertilized water I don't get any fertilizer build up.
However as we all know what works for one person might not work for others.
Your mix sounds like a good one! I forgot to mention that I put holes (with a soldering iron), in the pots that sit in saucers of water, that are right above the water line so they get air from the bottom.
 

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