Currently in bloom, this is the clone we used to make and register Phrag. Mountain Maid (besseae var flavum x hirtzii).
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Phrag. hirtzii 'Fox Valley' HCC/AOS
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brasphrag
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Nice one!
Could you please post a front view with staminode in larger photo?
Could you please post a front view with staminode in larger photo?
Here's a frontal view of the staminode.
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SlipperFan
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That's nice, Tom. I thought hirtzii was darker -- or are there variations? I never see this species for sale anymore.
Hi Dot,
The photos were taken in a (very) bright greenhouse - 2,800 fc on a sunny day - so the color is a little washed out. I think the reason why no one breeds these for seedlings is that adult plants are readily available at a very reasonable price from Ecuagenera. ($20 for an adult plant at the Chicagoland Orchidfest). I'm thinking of breeding it with one of our fischeri's.
The photos were taken in a (very) bright greenhouse - 2,800 fc on a sunny day - so the color is a little washed out. I think the reason why no one breeds these for seedlings is that adult plants are readily available at a very reasonable price from Ecuagenera. ($20 for an adult plant at the Chicagoland Orchidfest). I'm thinking of breeding it with one of our fischeri's.
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Cheyenne
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Very nice hirtzii. This species shares alot in common with longifolium. I don't see it for sale much either. But I found a flask about six months ago. They are growing very fast and have grassy foliage.
Phrag-Plus
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I'm sorry Tom, but the staminoide, label frindge and petals are showing a strong influence of longifolium....This one is looking more like Phrag. roethianum the natural hybrid betwen hirtzii and longifolium than the true species.
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Susie11
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Nice!
brasphrag
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I agree with Jean-Pierre, this seams to be a Roethianum.
Just to make the point I include some photos, Roethianum, hirtzii and an strange hybrid hirtzii X longifolium var. gracilie all them from Ecuagenera.
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Just to make the point I include some photos, Roethianum, hirtzii and an strange hybrid hirtzii X longifolium var. gracilie all them from Ecuagenera.
It definitely does not have a bald staminode, so it's probably x roethianum and not hirtzii. Interestingly enough when it was awarded in Knoxville, TN in 1996 as hirtzii, it didn't have a bald staminode either according to the AOS awards photo, so the award should actually be recinded. How does one go about doing this? Maybe slippertalker Bill Z can chime in on this.....
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ORG
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Dear Tom,
it is Phragmipedium x roethianum.
When I saw the first time your plant in the Awars Querterly I wrote to you and asked for a better picture and a flower. On the base of your plant and with the knowledge of the analyze of around 20 other plants we described it as Phrag. x roethianum. I think your plant was the type-plant.
Later I had also the possibility to find one of these hybrids in the wild.
Best greetings
Olaf
it is Phragmipedium x roethianum.
When I saw the first time your plant in the Awars Querterly I wrote to you and asked for a better picture and a flower. On the base of your plant and with the knowledge of the analyze of around 20 other plants we described it as Phrag. x roethianum. I think your plant was the type-plant.
Later I had also the possibility to find one of these hybrids in the wild.
Best greetings
Olaf
