Phrag Pulchellum

[Achamore]

Not the prettiest fellow, but interesting as it is one of the earliest phrag crosses. The parents are Grande x Sedenii and it was registered in 1893 by Vanner. I bought this last year from Sue Adams in Bristol.

 

[Linus_Cello]

Thanks for sharing.
But are we sure one of the parents is "Grande"?

http://www.slippertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=598184#post598184

 

[troy]

Proper bow/curtsy of petals, very cool, congrats on the blooming!!

 

[blondie]

This is one of my favourites and is very hard to get these days I use to have one but it got killed off. Mine was a remake by the EYOF.

 

[Achamore]

Thanks for sharing.
But are we sure one of the parents is "Grande"?

http://www.slippertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=598184#post598184

Not fully able to follow all of what Rob says on the topic. Very confusing indeed. So what should be said of this one now?

 

[Linus_Cello]

Not fully able to follow all of what Rob says on the topic. Very confusing indeed. So what should be said of this one now?

If I knew the answer, I would respond to Rob. I hate splitters...

 

[NYEric]

Nice, thanks for sharing.

 

[eteson]

Great to see! I love old crosses. According to RHS you should keep calling it Pulchellum.
Need to study carefully the changes but probably they are trying to fix something that Guido Braem advised them to do more than 10 years ago...so + ten years of mislabelled "caudatum" plants...

 

[SlipperFan]

I just with they get it all fixed and be over with it!

I rather like this flower.

 

[abax]

I like these flowers a very great deal and I love the older
crosses as well. The colors are lovely and I am intrigued
by the crossed petals...a very modest lady.

 

[eaborne]

Cool!

 

[Rob Zuiderwijk]

Not fully able to follow all of what Rob says on the topic. Very confusing indeed. So what should be said of this one now?

Hi Don,
It's nice to see such an old cross. I mean we don't see them very often.

In short about my message in the Taxonomy forum:
1881 Phrag. Grande was registered by Veitch as caudatum × longifolium.
1998 Phrag. Wössner Supergrande was registered by Franz Glanz as popowii × longifolium.

Then I noticed that
2012 Phrag. Leslie Garay was registered by Olaf Gruß as caudatum × longifolium,
and the R.H.S. changed Phrag. Grande into popowii × longifolium in the process making Phrag. Wössner Supergrande a synonym of Phrag. Grande.

Rob

 

[phraggy]

Hi Don. Love the very well grown plant. You mention you purchase plants from Sue Adams of Bristol ---Who is she and does she go by any other name??
Just curious!!
Ed

 

[Achamore]

Sue was a fine long-standing grower with a special interest in phrags. But last year she decided she had to sell off her collection. I learnt of this via Malcolm Perry.