Phrag warscewiczianum???

[Migrant13]

Is this warscewiczianum?? The staminode seems deformed so I was having a hard time trying to figure it out based on that. Never had a tag and hasn't bloomed in a few years. Thanks for the assist.

 

[mrhappyrotter]

Phrag exstaminodium, or whatever the current taxonomic name is, I would presume.

 

[eteson]

Seems to me a malformed caudatum. Exstaminodium should have much more globular pouch and darker color. If it repeat flowers without staminodial shield then it is a pale exstaminodium

 

[SlipperFan]

That was my thought, also, Eliseo.

 

[John M]

My thought too.

 

[Migrant13]

Thanks for the helpful feedback. I'll hope for a flower next year and check the staminode on that one for comparison.

 

[Phrag-Plus]

Seems to be a malformed caudatum for me too, but not an exstaminodium...

 

[Rick]

Seems to me a malformed caudatum. Exstaminodium should have much more globular pouch and darker color. If it repeat flowers without staminodial shield then it is a pale exstaminodium

There was a hybrid of caudatum and exstaminodium floating around too, which looked a lot like a greener version of exstaminodium.

However, from my own experience with exstaminodium and the literature on the Mexican populations (as opposed to the Guatemalan populations), the presence/absence expression of the staminode is highly variable.

These long petaled phrags are very plastic. Given the pouchless, self pollinating lindenii and the self pollinating exstaminodium, it wouldn't surprise me if missing staminodes are a common flower development issue in all of the species of the group without suspicion of man made hybridization.

 

[tomkalina]

It looks a lot like Phrag. Memoria Julius Dixler (caudatum x exstaminodium). The hybrid was made by one of our Chicago slipper orchid enthusiasts and registered in 2006.

 

[NYEric]

Was it you?

 

[Drorchid]

It looks a lot like Phrag. Memoria Julius Dixler (caudatum x exstaminodium). The hybrid was made by one of our Chicago slipper orchid enthusiasts and registered in 2006.

I second this one!

We had some Phrag. Mem. Julius Dixler in our collection, and they looked very similar. If I have time I will post some pictures. Interestingly some seedlings had staminodes, while others did not, and looked like this flower.

The reason I think it is this cross and not a straight caudatum, is # 1 the color is too dark; especially around the opening of the pouch. It also has some small indentations. Only Phrag. exstaminodium and Phrag. popowii (aks humboldtii) have these indentiations...because of the lack of the staminodal shield, I expect exstaminodium is the one parent..

It is also not a straight exstaminodium (as they are much darker in color), and the stance of the petals is different than a straight exstaminodium.

Robert