Phragmipedium fischerii

[dodidoki]

Currently in bloom.

 

[eteson]

Nice pouch coloration and nice shape.
Sorry the staminode is missing...
It is a first bloom?

 

[John M]

Very nice. Although, I'd hope that you get staminodes on other flowers. This clone is really nice, otherwise.

 

[dodidoki]

Nice pouch coloration and nice shape.
Sorry the staminode is missing...
It is a first bloom?

Oh, really!!! But as you said, I looked after and maybe it is not unusual at this species, I foud several similar foto, eg here is one:

http://thebcos.org/slipperorchids/gallery/gallery5/Phrag fischeri 10-02 blm.jpg

 

[dodidoki]

Very nice. Although, I'd hope that you get staminodes on other flowers. This clone is really nice, otherwise.

there is another bud on the stem, we will see soon.

 

[tomkalina]

It's not uncommon for this species to have staminode issues. Some are missing staminodes - others with partial staminodes and still others with mal-formed staminodes. Anyone hazard a guess as to why this seems to be common in fischeri? BTW - beautiful color!

 

[Paph_LdyMacBeth]

It's still quite beautiful. Love the fuzziness!

 

[eteson]

It's not uncommon for this species to have staminode issues. Some are missing staminodes - others with partial staminodes and still others with mal-formed staminodes. Anyone hazard a guess as to why this seems to be common in fischeri? BTW - beautiful color!

Tom I think that the explanation of the staminode issues in fischerii is quite easy... I can answer it with another question Does anyone know how many fischerii plants have been found in the wild?

 

[dodidoki]

Tom I think that the explanation of the staminode issues in fischerii is quite easy... I can answer it with another question Does anyone know how many fischerii plants have been found in the wild?

Maybe it could be some kind of protection against self pollination, It is a "male" flower with only spermiums and can give it just to another flower.

 

[tomkalina]

Rapid evolution of the species?

 

[dodidoki]

Rapid evolution of the species?

Maybe it could be just narrow distribution of this species. If a plant has just narrow distribution and relatively high density of individuals/area, this genes of male plants can survive by pollinators.

 

[Dido]

Nice one congrats

 

[eteson]

My oppinion is that most part of the fischerii plants are descendents from a single plant (or might be a very few plants). As you might know the original plant was aberrant (with double synsepal) and twisted stamidode. It was most probably a "mutant". After years of selection the breeders have got some nice plants but the original genetic defects are still there.
Even if you see a nice fischerii there is something in the staminode that seems to do not fit.. you cannot put the finger on it but it is something weird... it is like if the staminode is actually formed by 2 twin fused staminodes...

 

[NYEric]

Nice.

 

[dodidoki]

My oppinion is that most part of the fischerii plants are descendents from a single plant (or might be a very few plants). As you might know the original plant was aberrant (with double synsepal) and twisted stamidode. It was most probably a "mutant". After years of selection the breeders have got some nice plants but the original genetic defects are still there.
Even if you see a nice fischerii there is something in the staminode that seems to do not fit.. you cannot put the finger on it but it is something weird... it is like if the staminode is actually formed by 2 twin fused staminodes...

Thanks for your opinion, but I won't throw it out with garbage. I have another 5 fischeriis, one or too is near to blooming. I like this ona anyway, it is obviously some genetic mutation, but with nice color, nice shape and absolutely symmetrical with no sign of any deformity.

 

[eteson]

I won't throw it out with garbage.

I do not mean you should throw it out! It is a nice plant, the dorsal is wide and nice, the coloration is awesome.... hopefully the next bloom is going to be ok. I would be proud of a plant with such color!

Maybe it could be some kind of protection against self pollination, It is a "male" flower with only spermiums and can give it just to another flower.

Does it have stigma?

 

[phrag guy]

great color for sure

 

[eteson]

I just found a picture of one of my andreettae

the next bloom was fine.

 

[SlipperFan]

I was thinking along the lines of Eliseo. If all, or most of the andreetae plants available are descended from a plant with a mal-formed staminode, that may explain it.

 

[eteson]

I mean fischerii not andreettae. Hundreds of andreettae plants have been found.

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