Phragmipedium Ivan Portilla (??)

[Djthomp28]

After seeing a Phrag Ivan Portilla at the Paph Forum earlier this year. I decided I needed to add one to my collections, and I did. At least I thought I did. This is my Phrag Ivan Portilla (Grouville x kovachii). It looks suspiciously like Ecugenera Dream (Sedenii x kovachii).


I have not seen many Ivan Portilla. So I am not sure how much they vary. The one I saw looked more like giant besseae or Fritz Schomburg.

Does anyone have thoughts on this ID?

 

[Paphluvr]

I don't know what Ivan Portilla looks like, but this is a very nice outcome. I wouldn't be disappointed with this unless you have something very similar to it in your collection and were expecting a very different outcome.

 

[MaxC]

I think you may be correct, I think Phrag. Ivan Portilla should look similar to a Fritz Schomburg.

 

[Djthomp28]

Here is the challenge. I already have Ecugenera Dream. Here is mine from last year. It is nice but I don't need two.


Plus Ivan Portilla is $20 more than Ecugenera Dream

 

[Ray]

I don't know... Attached is a photo of Dot's Grouville 'Wacousta' AM/AOS, and I can see some similarities, especially if it was G x k and not k x G. Plus it has a similarly-shaped staminode.

 

[abax]

I love all three and I'd take whichever you want to sell Darlene.

 

[valenzino]

Seems fine,seen many at Ecuagenera and have a few,and are mostly all similar to yours...
Phrag Ecuagenera Dream,the current flowering size cross have much darker colours(the ones I seen in flower)

 

[Djthomp28]

Thanks all. If I did not have something different in my mind, I would feel differently. I will leave the tag as is and enjoy flower for now.

 

[MaxC]

Is the Ivan Portilla a larger bloom?

 

[richgarrison]

Maybe the plant at the paph forum was miss-labeled? ;-)

 

[NYEric]

Phrag. Ivan Portilla would be bigger. I though I posted my Ecuagenera Dream bloom here but I don't see it.

 

[Djthomp28]

Maybe the plant at the paph forum was miss-labeled? ;-)

I am wondering about that also. I snapped the picture pretty quickly. So I could have gotten the wrong label!

Regarding the size, it is about the same as my Ecuagenera Dream. However Both are first time bloomers. So I am not changing the label based on size alone. I wish my Ecuagenera Dream would spike soon to give some perspectives.

 

[grubea]

I have had the same thoughts about my "Ivan Portilla". Did you get yours from Ecuagenera also?

 

[Djthomp28]

Yes, this is from Ecugenera.

 

[grubea]

I emailed Ecuagenera with a pic asking their opinion on it. This is my plant.

 

[DrLeslieEe]

Indeed, this is not Phrag. Ivan Portilla, which looks like a round deep solid coral pink Cirila Alca about 12 cm. An FCC was given to one last March 2019.

 

[denisewh]

Seems fine,seen many at Ecuagenera and have a few,and are mostly all similar to yours...
Phrag Ecuagenera Dream,the current flowering size cross have much darker colours(the ones I seen in flower)

Have the Dream on my wishlist. Are Ecuag orchids mature size? That one looks like what I am ordering with a purple color.

 

[Djthomp28]

Have the Dream on my wishlist. Are Ecuag orchids mature size? That one looks like what I am ordering with a purple color.

mine bloomed within the year I bought it. Not sure other's experiences.