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This is Fanaticum 'DDs Prima Donna" HCC/AOS x bellatulum "SVO" AM/AOS. It has great color and size, and the plant is healthy and strong with new growth. However, it won't open. It has been like this for almost two weeks. I will keep it until it blooms again, but I suspect it carries the bellatulum trait for cup shaped flowers. It is too bad, because this could have been a real beauty.

Mike
 
I could indeed see now nice it is!
Hopefully more open with time or next time.
My bellatulum and certain parvi flowers did take a couple of weeks to fully open.
 
It is a beauty. I do not think it will open up for this one. Pease try again, it might open for you next one.
 
I find it silly beyond belief that one would criticize that gorgeous bloom because it is "cupped." Too much AOS judging influence. That is a gorgeous orchid. Period.
 
JAB

I think that most people prefer flat flowers to cupped flowers, if only because it increases the size and opens things up for a better presentation. I suspect this will still be true long after the AOS fades away.

Mike
 
I find it silly beyond belief that one would criticize that gorgeous bloom because it is "cupped." Too much AOS judging influence. That is a gorgeous orchid. Period.

I kind of agree with you. It's all in the eyes of the beholder as beauty is a subjective matter.

I find many bulldog hybrids, among others, better when slightly cupped.
Speaking of cupped, this flower to me does seem way too cupped, like half way open, or half way closed.
I would like it more when it opens further as Mike says.
 
JAB



I think that most people prefer flat flowers to cupped flowers, if only because it increases the size and opens things up for a better presentation. I suspect this will still be true long after the AOS fades away.



Mike



I respect everyone's opinion, but if you hadn't already been exposed to the expected judging criterion, you and everyone else wouldn't have a second thought about a flower needing to be flat and open for a better presentation. Some flowers' best presentation has nothing to do with flatness


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The color is outstanding. Hmmmm, I have a few bellatulum crosses and will monitor this trait.
Thanks for sharing.

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Guys, this flower has stopped opening at slightly more than 30 degrees. The inside is clearly visible because I put the camera down in front of the flower and the bright morning sun was providing excellent lighting. Otherwise, you're just going to see the outside of the petals. This is not OK, and it is not because the AOS judging system has influenced my outlook. This flower needs another 30 degrees at least, and it may attain it on the next blooming cycle, but for right now, it is seriously flawed. If it is like this in the future, it needs to be thrown away. I have a finite amount of growing space and I must be selective.

Mike
 
Guys, this flower has stopped opening at slightly more than 30 degrees. The inside is clearly visible because I put the camera down in front of the flower and the bright morning sun was providing excellent lighting. Otherwise, you're just going to see the outside of the petals. This is not OK, and it is not because the AOS judging system has influenced my outlook. This flower needs another 30 degrees at least, and it may attain it on the next blooming cycle, but for right now, it is seriously flawed. If it is like this in the future, it needs to be thrown away. I have a finite amount of growing space and I must be selective.

Mike

I agree with you, Mike.
Let's hope for better result next season.
It does have a great potential as you say.
 
I find it silly beyond belief that one would criticize that gorgeous bloom because it is "cupped." Too much AOS judging influence. That is a gorgeous orchid. Period.

I respect everyone's opinion, but if you hadn't already been exposed to the expected judging criterion, you and everyone else wouldn't have a second thought about a flower needing to be flat and open for a better presentation. Some flowers' best presentation has nothing to do with flatness

I would definitely agree. It is not at all an obvious or universal esthetic that any flower must be flat, round and open to be attractive. Is this awardable? Obviously not. Would I breed it? Probably not. Is it gorgeous? Of course it is. Is it disappointing? Only your eyes can tell you that for yourself.
 

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