Two Icons Gone

[KyushuCalanthe]

Hey guys,

I'm not much for sentimentalism or gossip, but the passing of both Farrah Fawcett and Micheal Jackson in just one day is a bit much to over look. Both were such important icons that changed, in their own ways, different parts of our culture. It makes me a bit sad to see them pass, especially Michael since he was a genius who's life ended so weird and tragic.

Godspeed to both...

Tom

 

[nikv]

I feel bad for Farrah's family and Michael's children. Particularly litte Blanket, the one who is a test-tube baby without any known mother. Wonder whether Debbie Rowe will raise the two older ones or will the Jackson family assume custody? And I'm guessing there will be a used cryogenic tank available on eBay soon.

 

[SlipperFan]

Both, too young to die.

 

[Wendy]

Both, too young to die.

Agreed...R.I.P. to both of them.

 

[NYEric]

Our condolences to both families.

 

[SlipperKing]

Both, too young to die.

I'm sorry but you get what you ask for. I for one, would never use either as a role model for rasing my kids.

Our condolences to both families.

I can agree with Eric.

 

[emydura]

I'm sorry but you get what you ask for. I for one, would never use either as a role model for rasing my kids.

I can agree with Eric.

I agree that Michael Jackson is one of the strangest people to have walked the planet. But what is the issue with Farrah Fawcett? I can't say I know her that well other than she was in Charlies Angels.

David

 

[kentuckiense]

I agree that Michael Jackson is one of the strangest people to have walked the planet. But what is the issue with Farrah Fawcett? I can't say I know her that well other than she was in Charlies Angels.

David

Yeah. I can't speak for Michael, but I don't recall Farrah doing anything other than pushing the pop-culture sexual boundaries in a then (and to a certain extent, now) puritanical society. However, I can see how that can be seen as the objectification of women. Either way, I wouldn't call that "asking for" cancer.

 

[goldenrose]

I'm sorry but you get what you ask for. I for one, would never use either as a role model for rasing my kids.
I can agree with Eric.

I agree that Michael Jackson is one of the strangest people to have walked the planet. But what is the issue with Farrah Fawcett? I can't say I know her that well other than she was in Charlies Angels.David

Yeah. I can't speak for Michael, but I don't recall Farrah doing anything other than pushing the pop-culture sexual boundaries in a then (and to a certain extent, now) puritanical society. However, I can see how that can be seen as the objectification of women. Either way, I wouldn't call that "asking for" cancer.

I'm puzzled with Farrah too, she also got beat up, who asks for that abuse?
I'll lay odds on a drug overdose on Jackson. We have to consider all of his 'rare' diseases that come with a **** load of drugs. Does anyone recall how long ago he had a fall on stage that resulted in a broken leg & broken vertebrae that he was still suffering from & holding him back??? The suffering has ended for him & the children he possibly, probably molested!

 

[user 9150]

OOO, Nasty !

If you can't say anything good about the departed. Don't say anything at all!
Let's get back to something we all know about.

Slippers!

Theresa. Off to spray my greenhouses........

 

[Kavanaru]

OOO, Nasty !

If you can't say anything good about the departed. Don't say anything at all!
Let's get back to something we all know about.

Slippers!

Theresa. Off to spray my greenhouses........

:clap: agreed!! :clap:

 

[nikv]

Well, not to be argumentative, but I don't agree with that sentiment. You wouldn't say that about Adolf Hitler or Saddam Hussein. Just because someone is dead doesn't mean you should only speak of their good deeds and forget their bad deeds. While I have great sympathy for Michael's family and his children in particular, I won't forget that he was most likely a pedophile and was at the very least a strange dude. Farrah, on the other hand, I cannot say anything bad about her.

 

[SlipperKing]

Unfortunely, Farrah didn't do her body any good after first showing off in her "birthday suit" but most of her adult life she spent it in a swimming pool of alcohol! I guess this wasn't a well known item with her.. Again not my kind of role model.

 

[biothanasis]

You wouldn't say that about Adolf Hitler or Saddam Hussein.

You see, they were not so bad! They might have been mentaly ill, but what can one do when a whole society wants to rise u to the top of power??? People like u and me (I am reffering generally, not to you and me personally...) drove them or permitted them to do what they did!!! So it is our fault too!!! We are the bad ones...!!! They just confirmed how ill we all are!!!


Let's remember their good deeds and learn from their bad habits and actions!!! I think this is the best to do with everyone that departs from this world!!!

I can't say that I feel sorry for any family, but I wish God gives them the strength to withstand their loss!! Life goes on and I like to see people smiling!!!!

 

[SlipperFan]

Shakespeare: "The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones."

 

[KyushuCalanthe]

Let's remember their good deeds and learn from their bad habits and actions!!! I think this is the best to do with everyone that departs from this world!!!

I can't say that I feel sorry for any family, but I wish God gives them the strength to withstand their loss!! Life goes on and I like to see people smiling!!!!

Hear, hear!

 

[cnycharles]

Shakespeare: "The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones."

though shakespeare was an excellent writer, his quote isn't really very accurate. you could say that people's evils shouts and echoes from the rooftops, but their good whispers from one person's soul to another....

I wouldn't want to ascribe to his inference that evil can live on longer than good.... maybe he wasn't exposed to very much good in his time so that he couldn't recognize it's lasting effects!

another point is though someone famous may have been indicated to be notorious, but unless it was proven, and since they can no longer defend themselves, it's better to let it lie... to compare hitler to jackson is completely off base; hitler's actions were completely proven and documented. though jackson may have been perverted (as many many other humans are), if it hadn't been proven (I don't watch news to know if it was or not) then what is there really to say now that he's dead? if it is eventually proven, then that would be different. conjecture never proves anyone guilty or innocent

 

[Clark]

Had the poster.
Has the Thriller cd.
I was thoroughly entertained.
Would rather stab self in head with pencil then read Shakespear again.

 

[SlipperFan]

though shakespeare was an excellent writer, his quote isn't really very accurate. you could say that people's evils shouts and echoes from the rooftops, but their good whispers from one person's soul to another....

I wouldn't want to ascribe to his inference that evil can live on longer than good.... maybe he wasn't exposed to very much good in his time so that he couldn't recognize it's lasting effects!

I was trying to be ironic, as was Shakespeare when he put those words into Mark Anthony's mouth after Julius Caesar's death:
"Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Caesar."

In fact, Anthony's speech had the opposite effect of his words (as he intended) -- Romans tended to finally recognize Caesar's greatness, and Brutus, first the hero, became the villain.

My irony was meant to be a response to those who could only see the bad things about Jackson & Fawcett. I would hardly compare Jackson to Hitler, even though he certainly was a flawed character, especially in his later years. But his contributions to music, especially popular music, were enormous. Farrah was certainly someone who, toward the end of her life, contributed much to those suffering from cancer.

Who among us is perfect???

 

[PaphMadMan]

While MJ was beyond eccentric, he was also the product of a twisted childhood and dealing with physical and mental health issues through much of his adult life. That he led a productive life at all shows great strength as well as talent. That he brought happiness to many and gave much to those in need is to be commended.

There certainly were serious questions about his relationship to children, but when it did come to a court of law he was found innocent on all charges. That he paid off an earlier accuser may say more about what the accuser was after than anything MJ did. There is at least some basis to give him the benefit of the doubt.