Two Icons Gone

[nikv]

There certainly were serious questions about his relationship to children, but when it did come to a court of law he was found innocent on all charges.

No, he was found not guilty, which only means that the case against him wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Not the same thing as innocent. He had a very high-powered legal team on his side. And as for my analogy to Hitler an Saddam Hussein, I was merely pointing out that nobody has ignored their evil deeds, nor should they. I really don't think I should be referred to as "off base". I don't go around insulting other posters here, not sure why I should put up with it here.

 

[cnycharles]

I was trying to be ironic, as was Shakespeare when he put those words into Mark Anthony's mouth after Julius Caesar's death:
"Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Caesar."

In fact, Anthony's speech had the opposite effect of his words (as he intended) -- Romans tended to finally recognize Caesar's greatness, and Brutus, first the hero, became the villain.

My irony was meant to be a response to those who could only see the bad things about Jackson & Fawcett. I would hardly compare Jackson to Hitler, even though he certainly was a flawed character, especially in his later years. But his contributions to music, especially popular music, were enormous. Farrah was certainly someone who, toward the end of her life, contributed much to those suffering from cancer.

Who among us is perfect???

oh, I would have understood the irony, though it was so long ago that I would've read that, that I missed it. also, it was someone else who had commented about the hitler/saddam slight comparison roundabout thing, so I wasn't pointing to you when I said that. pretty much I was just commenting in general and not pointing fingers at you... so, i'll go back to lurking!

 

[cnycharles]

No, he was found not guilty, which only means that the case against him wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Not the same thing as innocent. He had a very high-powered legal team on his side. And as for my analogy to Hitler an Saddam Hussein, I was merely pointing out that nobody has ignored their evil deeds, nor should they. I really don't think I should be referred to as "off base". I don't go around insulting other posters here, not sure why I should put up with it here.

my comments were certainly not meant to carry insult, just to point out that the comparison seemed a little strong. no injury intended. I don't insult people here at all if I can help it, so that should've helped point against my intention for insulting anyone. I would never say that evil deeds should be ignored, so we are in agreement there

 

[SlipperFan]

... so I wasn't pointing to you when I said that. pretty much I was just commenting in general and not pointing fingers at you...

I didn't take it personally, Charles. I just wanted to be sure everyone knew I was being ironical, not passing judgment.

my comments were certainly not meant to carry insult, just to point out that the comparison seemed a little strong. no injury intended. I don't insult people here at all if I can help it, so that should've helped point against my intention for insulting anyone. I would never say that evil deeds should be ignored, so we are in agreement there

Me, too!

 

[PaphMadMan]

No, he was found not guilty, which only means that the case against him wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Not the same thing as innocent. He had a very high-powered legal team on his side. And as for my analogy to Hitler an Saddam Hussein, I was merely pointing out that nobody has ignored their evil deeds, nor should they. I really don't think I should be referred to as "off base". I don't go around insulting other posters here, not sure why I should put up with it here.

Pardon my imprecise use of legal terminology. My point stands.

I did not refer to your analogy, call you 'off base' or otherwise insult you or anyone else. Including these comments after a partial quote of my post implies that I did.

 

[NYEric]

Hmmm, I hadn't considered the fact that the Jackson accusers $ettling out of court reflected on them also! MJ definitely had issues anyway; and FFM was no 'Angel' either. However as noted, let's not speak ill of the dead.