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I think you might have them reversed. Phrag besseae tends to have more “stoloniferous” growth IME.

I asked about sourcing some plants a almost a year ago and finally scored plants back in June. Here is the first one to bloom. Not a beauty but I’ll give it another chance. Lol

And this….. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/308597084_The_Phragmipedium_besseae_vs_Phragmipedium_dalessandroi_Dilemma

Kew says otherwise. https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:303734-2

Yes they do offer it for sale. Cant confirm the purity of them though. Chuck Acker has flasks available. Here is one from a flask I got from him a couple years ago.

Yes second picture is the flash and from roughly 30 cm away.

Sunset Valley Orchids.

Third bloom for me. Getting better each year. 9cm NS Photo with my iPhone, raw other than some cropping. With and without flash.

Pretty common for the group of species.

Have you had the genomes compared? Wouldn't that be the real determining factor in speciation? Just curious….

Thanks! I use HP ProMix and add in maybe 15% #3 perilte. Stop watering when leaves start to yellow, placed up on a shelf to eliminate the desire to water. When the leaves are brown, unpot and put in a new pot with a little media. When there is a tiny growth, pot up and start to water when the...

Hab medusa was always a species that I thought was pretty cool. This plant was selected almost two years ago from a group of first bloom seedlings. Thankfully, it was not murdered by me during dormancy. Hahaha Assuming it would get no higher than an AM, I had the clonal name ‘The Lorax’ with...

Every one of this breeding has been horrible for me as well. Pretty upsetting since spending a significant amount of money on the flasks. Tyler

I love this post! Phrag Jason Fischer is one of my favorite hybrids and besseae is my favorite species. When I was living in the San Francisco Bay Area, I traveled to Castroville regularly for work and always allowed a long stop at OZ when Terry still owned the nursery and then John. As many of...

None for me Tony.

Leaf span 20cm NS of flower 6.5

Here are mug shots minus the other mug

Its troubling for sure Tom.

How do you take your tea? Lol Wossner Mini Star. Second bloom plant. Threw two last time too. Tyler

Gorgeous! Congrats Tom! Sadly I was very late to judging and missed doing all the counting and measuring ;-) Ty