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mrhappyrotter
Grand Chupacabra
Do you have photos of this from other angles? This flower looks so weird my brain doesn't want to register what it looks like from a profile view.
Tom-DE
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Love it!
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Further pics.
mrhappyrotter
Grand Chupacabra
So cool. Such tiny sepals for that size pouch. Thanks for the added photos! You're the best!
only a mother could 'love' that
Istvan, come to the Paph Forum in DC with it Feb 8 & 9! You can enter it in the ‘Ugliest Paph’ Category 
Just kidding!! It’s not ugly, but it sure is unusual! It definitely would get a lot of attention!! If it blooms like that consistently, you may start a new direction in breeding!
Just kidding!! It’s not ugly, but it sure is unusual! It definitely would get a lot of attention!! If it blooms like that consistently, you may start a new direction in breeding!
Tom-DE
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The flower of this species supposedly looks like that naturally..., and that is why I love it too. Someday, it will be available in the U.S. legally and it won't be cheap...
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Yes, probably the ugliest recently known species, it is true.Istvan, come to the Paph Forum in DC with it Feb 8 & 9! You can enter it in the ‘Ugliest Paph’ Category
I remember we called sangii the same few years ago. Anyway i like it.
Tom-DE
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I would never call it ugly...
It is unique and many people would love to have it in their collection...being a long-lasting flower, it is a huge bonus. I would take this species over many gaudy Cattleya or Phal hybrids.
It is unique and many people would love to have it in their collection...being a long-lasting flower, it is a huge bonus. I would take this species over many gaudy Cattleya or Phal hybrids.
JayeL
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It is a very striking plant - the one I saw at our paph show certainly polarised opinion.
I see it's already been used as a parent
Posted by Beam BiobeaM - https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17HdSiCPgN/
I see it's already been used as a parent
Posted by Beam BiobeaM - https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17HdSiCPgN/
Hilmar
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dear all,
has anyone a valid CITES for bungebelangii? I am sure that not...
has anyone a valid CITES for bungebelangii? I am sure that not...
Tom-DE
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That is a hybrid with lunatum, quite nice! (at first, I didn't read your post carefully...I thought it was the species)
Tom-DE
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Not even legal in EU/Germany? For sure it is not legal here yet (in the U.S)
I don't think Hungary is enforcing the CITES that much....
I was teasing you! I think it‘s really nice because of its uniqueness!!Yes, probably the ugliest recently known species, it is true.
Hilmar
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it is one thing to get every thing, it is another thing to get it legal...
we do not make the laws that controls CITES and plant distribution but that is not our job, I am only the owner of the only real existing CITES nursery worldwide correct to the rules, you can check at CITES just under P-DE-1004 , we had intensive controlling and researching by the government during 8 years in process for getting that legal status ...
I want to help these endangered species to avoid extinction since I was an 12 years old boy but if international law is against it...
maybe here should be a source for the future and for new, advanced law regulation
Hilmar Bauch
Asendorfer Orchids Germany
if you have any doubts about my intention, please ask ORG, he knows a long time ...
we do not make the laws that controls CITES and plant distribution but that is not our job, I am only the owner of the only real existing CITES nursery worldwide correct to the rules, you can check at CITES just under P-DE-1004 , we had intensive controlling and researching by the government during 8 years in process for getting that legal status ...
I want to help these endangered species to avoid extinction since I was an 12 years old boy but if international law is against it...
maybe here should be a source for the future and for new, advanced law regulation
Hilmar Bauch
Asendorfer Orchids Germany
if you have any doubts about my intention, please ask ORG, he knows a long time ...
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Dear Hilm
Dear Hilmar. It is a very thin ice you try to walk on. First , there is no law here in my country about cites....our regulations restrict any export/import only about protected flora live in Hungary. Second, regulations about export/import are insane. It costs many hundred euros irrespectively about amount/quality of plants. I tried once to buy few plants legally. I payed 700 dollars only for papers, i got few dead plants. I never got back my money....Third, EU or USA is just a tiny spot... there are tons of illegally collected plants on viet/thai markets collected from wild.You can buy eg. dianthum 1 usd/kg!!!!! Most of them dies there, another large part goes to China...only a tiny part goes to EU or USA....I think those plants landed in EU or USA can give a possibility to save many species from extinction....Extinction from wilde is inevitable because of uncontrolled collection. We can t stop it....But we can save them in nurseries at least...
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That one is a bit more pastel in color! Very interesting to see, thank you
Hilmar
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dear Istvan,
yes,yes yes, you say what I think and feel since long times: We want to rescue these plants..
and our politicians do not do anything for this... only place borders on our way
if government does not agree to CITES there is no regulation, if government does this there is (here in Germany ) overregulation in any cases
so we are on us alone
I did hope 30 years ago that other nurseries or private people would go also the way of legalizing and breeding all these beautiful plants
but maybe it is not much interesting enough
I here in Germany did find my end in 2018 regulation of `origin country status`` at CITES, so for me all newly discovered species are forbidden land, I am not allowed to import them and try to propagate
the law is existing, as I remember Antec Laboratories work for saving and legalizing p. vietnamense many years ago I got flasks from them with legal US export CITES so all legal vietnamense of the next generations here in Europe came from that, at that time I had good hope to get on with this but since that never again an new discovered species was brought into propagation and trade in this way
so, hope is not lost but small
so do every seedpod on every species you can, find a lab which could develope and help before extinction...
and I know the pictures on chinese or other marketplaces for plants like armeniacum as pig`s food in tons..
Rolf Herrmann did show it to us in many excellent lessons...
yes,yes yes, you say what I think and feel since long times: We want to rescue these plants..
and our politicians do not do anything for this... only place borders on our way
if government does not agree to CITES there is no regulation, if government does this there is (here in Germany ) overregulation in any cases
so we are on us alone
I did hope 30 years ago that other nurseries or private people would go also the way of legalizing and breeding all these beautiful plants
but maybe it is not much interesting enough
I here in Germany did find my end in 2018 regulation of `origin country status`` at CITES, so for me all newly discovered species are forbidden land, I am not allowed to import them and try to propagate
the law is existing, as I remember Antec Laboratories work for saving and legalizing p. vietnamense many years ago I got flasks from them with legal US export CITES so all legal vietnamense of the next generations here in Europe came from that, at that time I had good hope to get on with this but since that never again an new discovered species was brought into propagation and trade in this way
so, hope is not lost but small
so do every seedpod on every species you can, find a lab which could develope and help before extinction...
and I know the pictures on chinese or other marketplaces for plants like armeniacum as pig`s food in tons..
Rolf Herrmann did show it to us in many excellent lessons...
