My Liberty Taiwan opened yesterday and by this afternoon the bloom was already 11.5 cm across and 10.3 cm tall. This is a first bloom for this plant, a bud last year blasted. The second picture is Big Mama posing with her delenatii neighbour for size reference. She definitely gets her size (and fuzzy centre) from her hangianum parent and I'm not quite sure but I may have detected a very slight fragrance.........?