Thanks for the answers. I ask Alfredo Manrique and he dont know which one it is. I might actually go to Manuel Arias (he lives 8 blocks from my home ) after next bloom opens.
Well how to explain... theres a lot of orchid cultivators in the jungle of Peru...nothing formal just people doing there own operations. They are most local farmers that see oportunity to get more money selling orchids that they found out there in nature. Some of them also get hybrids that have been stolen or sold from main breeders (such as Manuel Arias, he got stole apparently a big flask quantity some years ago) . So this people buy the no ID hybrids and sell them when they bloom in the famous (or infamous)Achos flower Market mainly or some by internet. Sooo thats how sometimes you get a NOID beautiful Phrag cross.