Sam's visit..Berenice album

[ehanes7612]

Sam came to our meeting last night and i asked him about the Berenice albums he made..he bloomed out the first one and it was 95% album with a little color toward the center or maybe it was the tips. It had 5 flowers. He's guessing that one in 15 are true album.

bought a bunch of brachys (his package hybrids) from him including 3 flasks

Paph. Benkei 'Tiger Mask' x Ichiro Suzuki 'Red Mass'

Paph. Kevin Porter (bellatulum 'Red Bold Spots' x micranthum 'Red Delight' AM/AOS)

Paph. leucochilum x sib ('Yellow Eight Ball' x 'Full Moon')

 

[NYEric]

Nice acquisitions. I'm really, really hoping there were no photos attached to this!!!

 

[ehanes7612]

no photos

 

[ehanes7612]

and for those who arent privy to brachy breeding..according to Sam..the Japanese are ten years ahead of everyone (especially with leuchochilum (godefroyae) ...he said that we should start seeing the almost solid black (vini) breeding leucho's in the US within a couple years..personally think they are ugly but would still like one. Liked the pics of vini maudiae type crossed to brachy ..nice coloring and shape

 

[Bob in Albany N.Y.]

Ed, Are you saying you bought those three flasks that are listed above? I thought you swore off of brachy flasks. I don't know if I really followed your post. You also bought a package of brachy's correct? If you did you must have preordered. Did he have anything in bloom?

 

[Justin]

great acquisitions. interesting about the vini brachys in the pipeline. will have to watch for those.

 

[cattmad]

interesting about the berenice album, I have some of these and would love to get a true album one

 

[ehanes7612]

Bob, I swore off brachy albas in flask and mail ordering flasks from that lab

 

[SelectOrchids]

and for those who arent privy to brachy breeding..according to Sam..the Japanese are ten years ahead of everyone (especially with leuchochilum (godefroyae) ...he said that we should start seeing the almost solid black (vini) breeding leucho's in the US within a couple years..personally think they are ugly but would still like one. Liked the pics of vini maudiae type crossed to brachy ..nice coloring and shape

Well, the Japanese are going some light years backwards with their leucochilum breeding nowadays, as Makoto Hanajima got through his former partner ( Nok from Chiang Mai...), a bellatulum vinicolor x leucochilum from Doi Tung, about 12 years ago. It was really dark, because of that bellatulum vini, the color on those hybrids covered about 80% of the flower. But remember, they are hybrids.

He bought all the remaining plants from the Royal Project in Doi Tung from that hybrid. Then, no one heard anything from those plants. Suddenly, roughly 2-3 generations time later, we got the leucochilum nearly black... They had at that time one complex brachypetalum hybrid too that was really dark, whose several plants had been awarded by the AJOS as leucochilum. Crossing the two lines together, you get fake black leucochilum look alike plants... That's what ALL those Japanese very dark leucochilum are, nothing more.

 

[Ozpaph]

now that's disappointing..

 

[ehanes7612]

Well, the Japanese are going some light years backwards with their leucochilum breeding nowadays, as Makoto Hanajima got through his former partner ( Nok from Chiang Mai...), a bellatulum vinicolor x leucochilum from Doi Tung, about 12 years ago. It was really dark, because of that bellatulum vini, the color on those hybrids covered about 80% of the flower. But remember, they are hybrids.

He bought all the remaining plants from the Royal Project in Doi Tung from that hybrid. Then, no one heard anything from those plants. Suddenly, roughly 2-3 generations time later, we got the leucochilum nearly black... They had at that time one complex brachypetalum hybrid too that was really dark, whose several plants had been awarded by the AJOS as leucochilum. Crossing the two lines together, you get fake black leucochilum look alike plants... That's what ALL those Japanese very dark leucochilum are, nothing more.

i believe it

 

[slippertalker]

Ed, Sam told me that the Berenice albino cross was albinistic in look except for the base of the dorsal sepal/petals area with a bit of color. He expects some to be albino. Either is a pleasant result after the similar cross of stonei x philippinense that turned out all normal color.

 

[ehanes7612]

Ed, Sam told me that the Berenice albino cross was albinistic in look except for the base of the dorsal sepal/petals area with a bit of color. He expects some to be albino. Either is a pleasant result after the similar cross of stonei x philippinense that turned out all normal color.

couldnt remember if he said base or tips

 

[Bob in Albany N.Y.]

Ed, don't feel bad. My flask of bellatulum album was a flop as well.