C. walkeriana & Dream Weaver

[Roy]

C. walkeriana alba v. Deborah AM/AOC
The first walkeriana I've been able to grow let alone flower.

C. Dream Weaver 'Rudak'
A recent purchase but the plant has no roots so off came the flowers.

 

[NYEric]

I can't grow Catts; but I'd love that walkeriana!!! :drool: Thanks for sharing.

 

[fbrem]

nice walkeriana!

 

[petro]

Really nice looking walkeriana alba you've got there!

 

[cattmad]

'deborah' is a nice clone of this, it's one of the strain now believed to be a dolosa or something, they were brought in by David Littman from Hawaii about 20 years ago, fantastic plants but the common consensus is that they are hybrids

 

[Stone]

'deborah' is a nice clone of this, it's one of the strain now believed to be a dolosa or something, they were brought in by David Littman from Hawaii about 20 years ago, fantastic plants but the common consensus is that they are hybrids

About 30 years ago I bought a mericlone of Catt walkeriana ''alba pendentive''
I think the original came from the US from the ''Orchidglen'' clone or something. 10 years after that a catt breeder aproached me desperate to buy a piece from me after hearing of the quality of this particular clone. I sold him a piece for 10 bucks. A few years later he was selling plants of walkeriana deborah. I'm 99% sure they came from a selfing of my pendentive.
They are almost identical. The quality in the flowers is remarkable in this strain and having grown a few different walks, I also beleive its some type of natural hybrid. But until someone can say for sure, we must continue to call it a walkeriana. Last year I crossed it with a coerulea walk. The seedlings should be ready for replate soon.:drool:

 

[SlipperFan]

Both are nice. But the walkeriana is gorgeous.

 

[Roy]

'deborah' is a nice clone of this, it's one of the strain now believed to be a dolosa or something, they were brought in by David Littman from Hawaii about 20 years ago, fantastic plants but the common consensus is that they are hybrids

I agree, I've studied the walkeriana plants from Japan & elsewhere, this plant & var' 'Bette' are huge plants compare to them. Even if they were 4n, I really don't think it would increase the plant size so much. This is a division of the plant that was awarded so all I can do is comply with the label.

 

[Roy]

I've tried to grow "pendentive", useless, might as well have tried growing grass in concrete.

 

[Roy]

Has walkeriana 'Deborah' been used in breeding????? or 'Bette'.

 

[JeanLux]

I esp. like this walker. a lot !!!! Jean

 

[cattmad]

Has walkeriana 'Deborah' been used in breeding????? or 'Bette'.

Hi Roy, yes both have been. David imported about 12 clones, the likes of 'Laina', 'White Beauty', 'Bette', 'Deborah' and many others, all from the Orchid Centre Nursery in Hawaii in the early 90's. This strain was used to produce the lana coryell line, david did some siblings (cant remember the clones used) but got low germination and well as onto 'adonis' that had very low germination.

The clone 'GJW' is also from this line but was imported by someone else

I think John Francis did some breeding with 'Deborah'

 

[Yoyo_Jo]

I'm partial to that Dream Weaver. :drool:

 

[Roy]

Hi Roy, yes both have been. David imported about 12 clones, the likes of 'Laina', 'White Beauty', 'Bette', 'Deborah' and many others, all from the Orchid Centre Nursery in Hawaii in the early 90's. This strain was used to produce the lana coryell line, david did some siblings (cant remember the clones used) but got low germination and well as onto 'adonis' that had very low germination.

The clone 'GJW' is also from this line but was imported by someone else

I think John Francis did some breeding with 'Deborah'

Thanks Brad, mine came from John as did Bette. I could have got Laina and one or 2 more but 2 was enough not know if they'd grow for me. I'll try using this one & see what happens.

 

[cattmad]

Thanks Brad, mine came from John as did Bette. I could have got Laina and one or 2 more but 2 was enough not know if they'd grow for me. I'll try using this one & see what happens.

thse grow really easily, that was one of David's problems, they grew so fast when people bought divisions within two years they were selling divisions, now they are everywhere

 

[SlipperKing]

Roy,
I have a walk that received a HCC back in 93'. I got it from the original owner. It's a cross between 'Pendentive' X 'Hanabu' I have never seen nor heard of 'Hanabu' I assume its another walkeriana. There is something about the 'Pendentive' clone because the HCC clone I have, 'Isle Breeze' never, ever blooms from the bottom of the plant, always from the top of most growths. At the time of its award the plant had 4 flowers! I've never seen walkeriana bloom with 4 flowers.

 

[Roy]

Just between you & me, I think there is a foreigner in the mix. The occasional flowering from the top of the canes I can accept but it defies all of the documentation from the days of Sanders, Veitch etc. Even so of the notes by growers of the 1800's & later note this. "Pendentive" seems to be the questionable plant.
This plant has canes at 4 inches tall & leaves 5.5 inches long with one new growth that didn't flower with 2 leaves. None of the plants I have show any signs of flowering from the base, only from the top of the canes.

 

[cattmad]

Just between you & me, I think there is a foreigner in the mix. The occasional flowering from the top of the canes I can accept but it defies all of the documentation from the days of Sanders, Veitch etc. Even so of the notes by growers of the 1800's & later note this. "Pendentive" seems to be the questionable plant.
This plant has canes at 4 inches tall & leaves 5.5 inches long with one new growth that didn't flower with 2 leaves. None of the plants I have show any signs of flowering from the base, only from the top of the canes.

most of the strain david had will flower from the base on rare flowerings, maybe one in four or five years, but they will do it. It adds to the belief they are dolosa or somthing pretty close to it

 

[Roy]

Checking IOSPE pic of dolosa alba & I can see it in this walkeriana?, no question but, dolosa flowers in the Fall, walker' flowers Spr/Sum. When does a walker' flower for other growers??
AOC awards show awarding times from May thru November, Fall to Spring.
This sort of adds to the 'hybrid' arguement, or does it?

 

[Erythrone]

Very nice Dream Weaver!