Cattleya Carmen(?)

[dodidoki]

With 4 huge flowers.I got as trianaei. I think it is Carmen.

 

[monocotman]

Amazing! How big are the flowers?
David

 

[Ozpaph]

its pretty

 

[dodidoki]

Amazing! How big are the flowers?
David

Thanks David. Here is.

 

[geoffsharris]

Not out of line in size for a good trianae, but that species blooms Christmas to Feb after a clear rest, almost always with only 2 blooms per inflorescence and the petals are usually much rounder and sometimes overlapping near the column. Not sure what it is, but beautiful none the less.

 

[Guldal]

..... beautiful none the less.

Hear, hear!

 

[LadySlipper]

Beautiful flowers!

 

[PercivalG]

Dear Orchidlovers,

I have a question, three years ago I’ve bought a Cattleya mendelii from Max Strauß.
The first bloom was at November last year.
To be honest, I can’t see a lot of C. mendelii, on first sight it’s seems like lueddemanniana (more like an hybrid)

What are your thoughts?

 

[monocotman]

I cannot see much of mendelli in this flower. The lip reminds me of lueddemanniana. Have you asked Max?

 

[terryros]

With 4 huge flowers.I got as trianaei. I think it is Carmen.

Istvan, I don't think it got the lueddemannia column configuration but I see the warscewiczii in the labellum. Any other reasons that you thought of (lueddemanniana x warscewiczii), besides those being about the two hardest Cattleya species to spell?

 

[PercivalG]

Hello and thank you for your interest.
This flower is a littlebit suspicious,
it’s not like mendelii, but also not 100% lueddemanniana at all.
So I guess it has to be Carmen.
Yes both are real tongue twister…

The only proofs we have is, a autum flowering season, and a warscewiczii - lueddemanniana like labium.

In the German forum that I am in, however, no one sees any reason why it is not a Mendelii.... But personally I think it is important that a Mendelii blooms like a Mendelii.

 

[monocotman]

I agree. The dark spot on the lip of mendelli is usually on the bottom half of the lip. You don’t see many clones where it leaks up into the tube. If the plant is mature and growing normally then it should flower in the spring, not autumn.
I grow a clone of carmen and it can flower in the spring after the first bulb matures or in autumn when the second one is mature.