Paph delenatii v. dunkle, almost there
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Looks like a vietnamense album bud!!
If its a vietnamense album i'll be in Texas tonight! :ninja:
slippertalker
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I will look forward to seeing both of these plants in Louisiana!
Paphman910
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Very beautiful! Can't wait for mines to flower in the near future!
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koshki
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I've had a couple paphs I wasn't interested in growing, so they went to the raffle table. But the delenatii really appeals to me. I love the colors and the shape.
What kind of culture does it need? Is it a difficult paph to grow and bloom?
What kind of culture does it need? Is it a difficult paph to grow and bloom?
Paphman910
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I find them quite easy to grow! I grow them warm like Phals! Whether they are difficult depends more so on the seedling. Some seedling grow extremely fast while others are not fast grower. My seedling have grown from 3/4 inch leafspan to about 5-6 inch leafspan in 1.5 years from flask. They like to almost dry out before watering. I grow them in a mixture of coconut husk, perlite, charcoal and sphagnum moss. Relative humidity of 60-75% is great! They seem to slow down in growth rate during January to March.
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Looking nice Rick. I'm not trying to cause trouble, but there's this thing nagging at me constantly about how laws are enacted and then more importantly enforced. Come on, so these special forms just start to spontaneously pop up in collections around the world? A little research could point to a particular location where they were originally sourced. I guarantee it wasn't in someone's "sanctioned" flask!
Here there are plenty of these dunkle and alba forms at the shows. No one seems to care, but god forbid you think about showing a tranlienianum. One odd side note, from time to time at large events I see obviously wild collected stuff, or what a friend calls "elephant stomped". For instance, a couple years back I saw a sanderianum that looked like a herd of elephants had a go at it. It didn't have one leaf that wasn't actually shredded and a very weak spike with one discombobulated flower. The price was a cool 156,000 yen or just under $2000 US. Certainly it would be tough to say that came out of someone's flask or was a division from an established plant.
What wit dat? The owner of the stall looked quite serene about the whole matter.
Here there are plenty of these dunkle and alba forms at the shows. No one seems to care, but god forbid you think about showing a tranlienianum. One odd side note, from time to time at large events I see obviously wild collected stuff, or what a friend calls "elephant stomped". For instance, a couple years back I saw a sanderianum that looked like a herd of elephants had a go at it. It didn't have one leaf that wasn't actually shredded and a very weak spike with one discombobulated flower. The price was a cool 156,000 yen or just under $2000 US. Certainly it would be tough to say that came out of someone's flask or was a division from an established plant.
What wit dat? The owner of the stall looked quite serene about the whole matter.
SlipperKing
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Tom,
I'm shocked to hear tranlienianum isn't all over the shows as well in Japan.
I'm setting here in the good ole US of A with the impression every country in the world has every slipper species known to man except us!
I'm shocked to hear tranlienianum isn't all over the shows as well in Japan.
I'm setting here in the good ole US of A with the impression every country in the world has every slipper species known to man except us!
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Eric Muehlbauer
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It is very inconsistent with CITES...I guess it was in the mid-90's that I read about the rediscovery of delenatii in Vietnam. I shrugged my shoulders and though, well, too bad....we'll never see them here. On the contrary, within 2 years the vietnamese seedlings were all over the place. Some were crossed with the old Lecoufle inbred line. It had an amazing effect...all of a sudden, a species known for being difficult and cantankerous became one of the easiest paph species to grow and bloom. A few years later the varieties showed up...dunkel and album. (Dennis D'Allesandrio told me about a German bred strain selected for fragrance...maybe Olaf can tell us about it?) As for culture, I finally had luck when I started to treat delanatii more like a phrag than a paph...lots of sphagnum in the mix (I use bark...CHC did not impress my delanatii's, at all.) Lots of water, although I don't let them sit in water like a phrag.
SlipperKing
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Hey that's great to here Bill! Sorry I couldn't make it this go a round.
I think that about sumes it up Eric for the delenatii's. The way you tell the story is how I remembered it. But! What is really cool is, this plant is seed grown and I have no interest in obtaining collected material. If this is the norm and the exception then the demand for collected dunkels and albums should of dropped way off.
(Dennis D'Allesandrio told me about a German bred strain selected for fragrance...maybe Olaf can tell us about it?) As for culture, I finally had luck when I started to treat delanatii more like a phrag than a paph...lots of sphagnum in the mix
I was lucky enough to get a delenatii from Dennis a few years ago -- intense rose-like fragrance. I always add sphagnum to the mix for my delenatii's only, and I agree, they are among the easiest and most faithful plants in my collection.
I was lucky enough to get a delenatii from Dennis a few years ago -- intense rose-like fragrance. I always add sphagnum to the mix for my delenatii's only, and I agree, they are among the easiest and most faithful plants in my collection.
