i've been agonizing over how much i am missing out. <insert dramatic pause> i bit the bullet and got my PPQ-587 + PPQ-621. it wasn't hard at all! thank you to all that chimed in to reassure me that it wasn't as scary as i originally perceived.
plant import permits freak me out
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It's interesting that 621 refers to terrestrial plants. What are you considering importing?
Is it normal for DHL to ask for my SSN as part of the import process? Seems a little invasive and unnecessary if they already have all the required import and CITES permits, no?
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DHL did not ask for my SSN. Sounds phishy to me.
It's normal. Importing requires your tax id in case there is duty (tax) determined to be due on the value.
I asked DHL to explain what is going on and why SSN was necessary and this was their reply:
No mention of taxes or import duty just "maybe you're a terrorist". LOL!
I provided all the information they had requested. Slightly hilarious since I was freaking out about obtaining import permits in the first place. Hopefully, the plants don’t die during this delay.
Please note that this is asked by US customs directly and not DHL and it is done for security reasons. A denied party is a person or company that has been denied import/export privileges by the United Nations, US Federal Government, or other government agencies. This may be due to various reasons, including violation of international trade regulations and/or suspicion of connection with terrorist organizations. So they have to make sure you are not the person on the listAccording to the system, the information requested for customs clearance has been provided and forwarded to import agents for review and customs entry. No further actions are required at this time from the customer. DHL will contact you if any other action is needed.The process might take about 3-5 business days approximately, however, it can take longer.No mention of taxes or import duty just "maybe you're a terrorist". LOL!
I provided all the information they had requested. Slightly hilarious since I was freaking out about obtaining import permits in the first place. Hopefully, the plants don’t die during this delay.
At one point of my career, I led the global logistics effort for a $500-million chemical company - a small division of Total Energies.
One of our sister companies intentionally used incorrect HTS (harmonized tariff system) codes on some raw materials imports to avoid high duties, “to remain competitive “. When I discovered that, I immediately went to our lawyers who “self reported” to the Feds. A “fortunate” factor was that the person who had initiated that practice had passed away. A moderate fine later and they were good to go - but probably under a closer watchful eye than before.
Had the company been caught by the authorities, that “denied party” status might very well have been applied, terminating all import and export activities of the company, putting it out of business.
One of our sister companies intentionally used incorrect HTS (harmonized tariff system) codes on some raw materials imports to avoid high duties, “to remain competitive “. When I discovered that, I immediately went to our lawyers who “self reported” to the Feds. A “fortunate” factor was that the person who had initiated that practice had passed away. A moderate fine later and they were good to go - but probably under a closer watchful eye than before.
Had the company been caught by the authorities, that “denied party” status might very well have been applied, terminating all import and export activities of the company, putting it out of business.
I, too, am waiting for a shipment from Koopman, after working up the courage to apply for permits. Thanks for posting this. I probably would have refused to give my ssn and not gotten my plants.
us customs took 10+ days but is now cleared for it's final leg of the journey. i wish there was a better way to submit SSN prior to arrival at customs hub to expedite the import process.
That is a failure by DHL. Because the acted as your custom's broker they should have asked for your SS number before the shipment even arrived.
yay they made it! 
2 of the 4 arrived in bloom. the petal is mashed on the jack tonkin but that’s ok. just glad they didn’t languish in customs over the thanksgiving holiday. 
2 of the 4 arrived in bloom. the petal is mashed on the jack tonkin but that’s ok. just glad they didn’t languish in customs over the thanksgiving holiday. 
Beautiful. Worth the effort by my measure. But I didn't have to jump through the hoops.
Tom-DE
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good to hear the good new at the end...did you get Paph. Mem. of Jack Tonkin? I wish I knew...I would piggy-back your order for that one.yay they made it!
littlefrog
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Is that a specific jack Tonkin clone? At one point I had half a dozen divisions of the same Jack Tonkin (I can't remember the clonal name if it has one) and probably still have one or two... Inherited it from a Michigan grower who is long since deceased.
it’s listed as a division of Paphiopedilum Jack Tonkin 'Val's Choice' AM/AOS. if you have a different clone available (or any other all white complexes) please do LMK!
Tom-DE
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That is a good clone. I had it in my previous collection...loved it!
