Sebastien Delmarche (helenae x purpuratum)

[reivilos]

This is paph Sebastien Delmarche (helenae x purpuratum) registered by Belgian nursery l'Amazone in 2011.
I like this paph not because it will make history (because like other purpuratum hybrids it won't)
but rather because it's a good illustration of hybridizing: it has the size and downward petals of helenae, the color and reflexed dorsal of purpuratum.
In the end you get a pretty f**k*d up thing, but I like it.

 

[NYEric]

How did you straighten out the dorsal?

 

[reivilos]

How did you straighten out the dorsal?

It started like this... same habit as purpuratum...

 

[NYEric]

Ouch. That sux!

 

[emydura]

It is a pity the dorsal reflexes as that first photo is really nice.

 

[TyroneGenade]

It looks pretty good. I like the colors. Perhaps cross back to helenae or self it to try get a better dorsal?

 

[KyushuCalanthe]

Lovely colors and fantastic photo set.

 

[PaphMadMan]

The color and shine are very nice, and the pre-reflex picture shows the potential of this type of cross. And if you find the reflexed dorsal so objectionable, you should't be making or buying purpuratum primary crosses. Why would you expect anything else in the first generation?

 

[SlipperKing]

That bloody red pouch is outstanding. I'm not crazy about the cupped back petals. The faults came be bred out but the trick would be to keep the color in the process.

 

[mrhappyrotter]

That turned out pretty well I think. I'd not kick it out of my collection to be sure.

 

[SlipperFan]

Rick nailed it.

 

[paphioboy]

Very nice.. I actually want it in my collection..

 

[nathalie]

Vraiment sympa Olivier, je l'ai pas lol!!

 

[fibre]

It looks pretty good. I like the colors. Perhaps cross back to helenae or self it to try get a better dorsal?

The dorsal will not improve (if flat is an improvement) by crossing it back or selfing it. Most outcome of helenae has a reflext dorsal and narrow petals. Same here.

 

[Ozpaph]

very glossy sheen.

 

[Trithor]

One of those crosses that have a mix of good and bad. Interesting to be sure, but not a line I would be inclined to pursue?

 

[TyroneGenade]

The dorsal will not improve (if flat is an improvement) by crossing it back or selfing it. Most outcome of helenae has a reflext dorsal and narrow petals. Same here.

Hmm... A good point. Maybe cross it to Paph mastersianum instead? It has a similar color scheme and a nice flat dorsal.

 

[fibre]

One of those crosses that have a mix of good and bad. Interesting to be sure, but not a line I would be inclined to pursue?

I absolutely have to agree.

 

[Leo_5313]

Great color!

 

[eaborne]

Cool, thanks for posting!