Cypripedium subtropicum

[Hakone]

stupid question !
You fly there, go to the nursery and buy the plants . It's that easy.
@ Berthold
I hope here a civilized and sophisticated conversation with you. Do you understand

 

[BrucherT]

If you don't buy the plants, they will be thrown away after 1 month.

If you do buy the plants, you create a market for the plants. Stop.

 

[BrucherT]

stupid question !
You fly there, go to the nursery and buy the plants . It's that easy.
@ Berthold
I hope here a civilized and sophisticated conversation with you. Do you understand

And then get arrested and jailed for breaking CITES laws which, though imperfect, are there to protect these and other plants.

 

[BrucherT]

What you are showing here is a serious violation of international laws and rules.
But in this regard, the Vietnamese seem to be completely painless and only looking for additional income.

I agree with you but I cannot vilify poor Vietnamese collectors. It is we should create this market who are to blame.

 

[Hakone]

If you do buy the plants, you create a market for the plants. Stop.

They sell on the side of the road. You go past, after 3 days throw them in the trash can. The process will be repeated next year...

 

[Hakone]

And then get arrested and jailed for breaking CITES laws which, though imperfect, are there to protect these and other plants.

Selling and buying within Vietnam is allowed. Bringing abroad is your problem

 

[Berthold]

stupid question !
You fly there, go to the nursery and buy the plants . It's that easy.
@ Berthold
I hope here a civilized and sophisticated conversation with you. Do you understand

I am not interested in illegal business, I am not a vietnamese.

 

[Berthold]

Selling and buying within Vietnam is allowed.

I think, that is not true

 

[Hakone]

I do not understand what you're saying. I don't sell any plants.
I say:" If you want to buy the plants, fly to Vietnam. Do you have money for the flight, Mr German? "

 

[Berthold]

I do not understand what you're saying.

Sorry, I can't help You.
I'm sure everyone else here on the forum will understand what I said.

 

[Berthold]

Selling and buying within Vietnam is allowed. Bringing abroad is your problem

Hakone is lying. Vietnam is an active CITES member. CITES prohibits the free trade with CITES products.

What is a liar doing in this forum?

 

[Hakone]

You have a lot of fantasies.

The nursery make flaske



Berthold , do you have money for the flightn to Viet Nam ?

Chau Nguyen Nursery in Zentral Viet Nam

 

[Berthold]

The nursery make flaske

We are talking about illegal deal with Cypripedium subtropicum not about a nursery producing orchid seedlings of common orchid species like thousand of orchid nurseries around the world do.

 

[Hakone]

You fantasize a lot.
Your perception has a big problem. You can buying Seedlings of cypripedium subtropicum . But have you money , you don't get as a gift

 

[BrucherT]

They sell on the side of the road. You go past, after 3 days throw them in the trash can. The process will be repeated next year...

“The process,” as you call it, will stop when you stop buying the plants. You created the market. You perpetuate it.

 

[Hakone]

if you don't buy, buy the natives Vietnamese

 

[Hakone]

Wow! This is definitely on my wish list, but virtually impossible to source here in the EU. And starting with seedlings seems a death wish. I'd even be delighted with fresh pollen!

You can buy from albiflora.be

https://www.albiflora.be/files/docs/pricelist_1.pdf?v=1584912776

 

[Berthold]

You can buy from albiflora.be

No, albiflora doesn't sell pollen or seed

 

[Hakone]

Do you have any Liste from albiflora ?

 

[Berthold]

Yes, all list and good personal contact.