Paphiopedilum villosum var. annamense

[Don I]

Welcome aboard Kate. Sometimes I think I could make a collection of just villosum.
Don

 

[DrLeslieEe]

So update... nine months later this plant is reblooming. About the same size with deeper color compared to the first bloom. I’m surprised it’s doing it in summer and not late fall as most do. Not complaining though...

Presenting Paphiopedilum villosum var laichaunum ‘Web of Lies’ denoting the numerous versions (formas and variations) it had to go through before final classification.

 

[DrLeslieEe]

Hi,
(My first post . . ., not sure about how to upload images, sorry). Based on this thread, it appears that my Paph. villosum is not fma. amnamense, notwithstanding the tag. On a positive note, it has a spread of 10.8 cm and this plant gave me two flowers on its second bloom.
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Somehow I missed this post.

Nice bloom Kate (belated congrats) and welcome (belated again LOL).

 

[Phred]

Hi Leslie
Congratulations on the reblooming. I’ve got several in bud right now. Also, it’s taken me a couple years to get my villosum, awarded as var. anamense in 2018, re-classified as var. laichaunum. It took the first year for me to get the AOS to accept laichaunum as a variety after I provided all the available literature to them. Now after a number of emails this year they have changed my award to Paph villosum var laichaunum ‘Lily’ HCC/AOS. I just received the corrected award certificate last Thursday.

 

[DrLeslieEe]

Hi Leslie
Congratulations on the reblooming. I’ve got several in bud right now. Also, it’s taken me a couple years to get my villosum, awarded as var. anamense in 2018, re-classified as var. laichaunum. It took the first year for me to get the AOS to accept laichaunum as a variety after I provided all the available literature to them. Now after a number of emails this year they have changed my award to Paph villosum var laichaunum ‘Lily’ HCC/AOS. I just received the corrected award certificate last Thursday.

Finally! Thanks for your perseverance that subsequent same type will be judged correctly under this variety. I hope your Lily reblooms even better to get rescored, ideally to the AM it deserves.

 

[BrucherT]

So update... nine months later this plant is reblooming. About the same size with deeper color compared to the first bloom. I’m surprised it’s doing it in summer and not late fall as most do. Not complaining though...

Presenting Paphiopedilum villosum var laichaunum ‘Web of Lies’ denoting the numerous versions (formas and variations) it had to go through before final classification.

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Loving the name! Ha ha ha.

 

[blondie]

Very nice lovely markings

 

[Teresa Koncolor]

So update... nine months later this plant is reblooming. About the same size with deeper color compared to the first bloom. I’m surprised it’s doing it in summer and not late fall as most do. Not complaining though...

Presenting Paphiopedilum villosum var laichaunum ‘Web of Lies’ denoting the numerous versions (formas and variations) it had to go through before final classification.

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Beautiful bloom

 

[DrLeslieEe]

Just a quick update. These villosums do flower a long time with no sign of waning. Wonder how long it will last. It’s in its 6th week now. I think the color gets deeper too?

 

[Guldal]

Leslie, those colour are to die for - love the clonal name, too@

 

[DrLeslieEe]

It’s been more than a year now since this plant bloomed. I saw a bud in October and flower finally opened.

Presenting villosum var. laichaunum ‘Web of Lies’ for 2021!

 

[GuRu]

Great flower, Leslie........and you create alway really funny clonal names.

 

[werner.freitag]

agreed, great flower, even better name..................

 

[DrLeslieEe]

Thanks guys!

 

[Guldal]

It's really a great clone, Leslie! With almost chameleonlike propensities: here the lip/ slipper is darker; there the slipper with an all most pastellike quality and the dorsal centrally, very darkly coloured. Very nice, and very interesting!

Ps. I'm a bit loss, whether I should wish you a Merry Christmas - or if a Happy Holidays would be the more appropriate address? (I know Indonesia is predominantly muslim - but I wonder, what denomination most Borneans belong to: Islam, Buddhism and/or something third?!)

 

[DrLeslieEe]

Thanks Jen’s, it’s a nice reliable clone that blooms every year. What more can I ask for?

Malaysia is mostly Islamic but I’m a non-denominational ‘agnostician’ lol (Catholic school trained hehe).

 

[Guldal]

Malaysia is mostly Islamic but I’m a non-denominational ‘agnostician’ lol (Catholic school trained hehe).

Sorry, Leslie, for putting my foot in my mouth by confusing the nationality of the different parts of Borneo!

If I had to label my own stance, it would be equally confusing. Basically taoist/buddhist (but more with respect to a philosophical tradition and when it comes to everyday practice), and I think my position when the discussion turns to the religious sphere might be exactly the same as yours: non-denominational agnosticism with a faint leaning towards an enlightened catholicism (Vatican II - and without the distorted sexual moral).
So: Happy holidays from one DA to another!

 

[Jan Carlo Pahl Paparoni]

I agree with Pherd. The separation of varieties is important to distinguish the various types of villosums based on color markings, localities and genetic isolation evolution. They are all in the villosum complex and descend from the same ancestor. Like many of the complexes in the Paphiopedilum alliance, many have been elevated to species level, even though they started as mere variants of the type species. For example, we have new species outlaid in the recent Orchid Digest (2019 Volume 82-4) Paphiopedilum Annotations by Koopowitz that introduce the following gratixianum (also of the villosum complex) and villosum types as their own species ranking; christensonianum, cornuatum, daoense, denssisinum, guangdongense, and stenolobum. To keep these varieties named and separated are the key to maintaining species purity and correct registration of future hybrids.

Thanks to Hien for the article links.

And a nice pic of the var annamense from BrucherT. Might be villosum var fusco-roseum too.

Elf, if the leaves of the flower you showed have narrow leaves (less than 4 cm) and finely spotted, it may be a Paph. christensonianum or Paph. villosum fusco-roseum, and not annamense?

Jens, the official name for this variety is laichaunum based on the description on Die Orchidee by Olaf Gruss et al as well as on the offical WCSP (World Checklist in Kew).

Phred, I sent a message to AOS to clarify these issues with the previous awards mislabeled as annamense. As well as to ask what to do when I bring the plants in for judging this coming weekend (if I should label as laichaunum even though tag says annamense). I will keep you posted on this thread.

Dr leslie I am new in to the Paphiopedilum, In fact the only book I have is Dr Braem Book (still reading it)

can you help me please with the varieties of villosum and gratixianum on photos, ecology, niche, habitat, vegetative behaviour, or any thing you can help me with

thanks a lot

Jan Pahl Paparoni (Barcelona, Spain, originally from Caracas, Venezuela)

PD. I am also a splitter in many ways, but mostly inside Cattleya, Laeliinae and Catasetum that had almost all my attention on orchid collecting since my youth ... but since I arrived 6 yeas ago to Barcelona, I started to develop a lot of interest in to Paphiopedilum, specially those related to these somehow "cryptic" species at least to the eyes of someone that is not acustume to the interespecific and extra especific variation, introgression history, etc

 

[DrLeslieEe]

Hi Jan, the links to the articles on this post is generally what we use. The new book on Paphs by Olaf Grus will show you the updated variations. Look into this by googling him.

 

[UweM]

Dr. Leslie, ich bin neu beim Paphiopedilum. Eigentlich ist das einzige Buch, das ich habe, das von Dr. Braem (lese es noch)

Können Sie mir bitte mit den Sorten villosum und gratixianum auf Fotos, Ökologie, Nische, Lebensraum, vegetatives Verhalten oder irgendetwas anderes helfen, bei dem Sie mir helfen können?

vielen Dank

Jan Pahl Paparoni (Barcelona, Spanien, ursprünglich aus Caracas, Venezuela)

PD. Ich bin in vielerlei Hinsicht auch ein Splitter, aber hauptsächlich in Bezug auf Cattleya, Laeliinae und Catasetum, die seit meiner Jugend fast meine gesamte Aufmerksamkeit beim Orchideensammeln hatte ... aber seit ich vor 6 Jahren nach Barcelona kam, begann ich, ein großes Interesse an Paphiopedilum zu entwickeln, insbesondere an den Arten, die mit diesen irgendwie „kryptischen“ Arten verwandt sind, zumindest in den Augen von jemandem, der nicht an die interspezifische und extraspezifische Variation, Introgressionsgeschichte usw. gewohnt ist.

https://www.paphs.de/en/species/300-villosum

https://www.paphs.de/en/species/216-gratrixianum


https://www.paphs.de/en/blog/paph-gratrixianum-vs-paph-christensonianum-2


Here in Germany we have the two excellent Paphio books by Olaf Gruss with hundreds of pictures of the individual species.

Volume 3 is due to be published in autumn.

Apparently these books will soon be published in English too