Phrag besseae 'Lovebug'

[Roy]

Paphio,
Perhaps you should take it to judging so it can be screened out...
Rick

If the overall width of this flower is comperable to any other besseae that has been awarded and the judges reject it, they should all do a 2 year refresher course then give judging away.

 

[Paul]

Wow!! really nice one!!

 

[toddybear]

Incredible shape and colour!

 

[Rick Barry]

Next will be a bessae with overlapping petals
Carsten

This just in...stay tuned for updates.

Phrag besseae 'Maximizer' from OZ

Regards,
Rick

 

[NYEric]

OK, ok Yay besseae!!! [Now sneak me a few, hide them in your pockets and ship to NYC. :ninja: You want there to be some remnants left when the San Andreas fault makes Pheonix waterfront property, right? oke:]

 

[Gilda]

:clap::drool:Stunning bloom & color !

 

[Kevin]

Both are truly amazing! Just for fun, could someone post a pic of a 'regular' besseae to see the difference?

 

[Jason Fischer]

all the modern OZ bess are 2n. Even the famous Jason Fischer 'Triplicate' is
2n. It is an understandable common misconception that it is 3n.

Are you sure on this? I was told he used 'Terry's Choice' to make it, which is a 4N.

By the way, you should put Memoria Dick Clements on that besseae . Nice flower!

 

[paphioland]

Are you sure on this? I was told he used 'Terry's Choice' to make it, which is a 4N.

By the way, you should put Memoria Dick Clements on that besseae . Nice flower!

Hey Jason.

Who told you that it was 3N? I also thought this because of the name but that referred to the the flower count.

You might be biased concerning cross ideas lol:wink:

 

[aquacorps]

It would get a 77 HCC @ AOS judging.

 

[SlipperFan]

It would get a 77 HCC @ AOS judging.

From which judging center???

 

[goldenrose]

It would get a 77 HCC @ AOS judging.

From which judging center???

I share the same thought as Dot. How does one come up with this judging from a picture? Please share with us how you arrived at this number.

 

[paphioland]

I share the same thought as Dot. How does one come up with this judging from a picture? Please share with us how you arrived at this number.

I think the comment was a sarcastic one. When it comes to paphs and phrags, as a whole, there is much work that needs to be done in terms of awarding and judging. It is pretty unreliable. I personally place almost no value in an award except to look up the measurements of the flower because I can't trust if the award is "valid" or not. I am not dissing all the judges. Some know paphs well most do not. There are good ones out there but on a whole the system is lacking. There should prob be a group that just judges paphs and phrags. That would be ideal but prob not enough interest to make it convenient.

 

[NYEric]

Doesn't the judging system make one knowledgeble in various types of orchids!?

 

[Kevin]

True, but you have to give the judges credit - look at the thousands of species and hybrids they have to be 'experts' on! (orchids in general, not just slippers). I too think that there are many injustices done at the judging table, and it probably would be a good idea to have specialists in different Alliances, but not really practical.

 

[Ernie]

The only way you all can help is to rush out to your local (or not so local, but closest) judging center and get involved. And not by taking a plant once in a while, but sitting in for a couple months, clerking some shows, then applying to be a student.

-Ernie

 

[GROWINHYDRO.COM]

wow!!!

 

[rdlsreno]

The only way you all can help is to rush out to your local (or not so local, but closest) judging center and get involved. And not by taking a plant once in a while, but sitting in for a couple months, clerking some shows, then applying to be a student.

-Ernie

Exactly!!! Just like Dog show judges not only an expert on one breed but all breeds.


Ramon

 

[Kevin]

The only way you all can help is to rush out to your local (or not so local, but closest) judging center and get involved. And not by taking a plant once in a while, but sitting in for a couple months, clerking some shows, then applying to be a student.

-Ernie

It might be nice to be a judge. I have clerked, and sat in on AOS judging many times, but apply to be a student? Not unless I win the lottery to be able to fly to Vancouver or Toronto once a month, plus judge at other shows. I hear AOS judging doesn't pay much either.oke:

 

[Kevin]

Exactly!!! Just like Dog show judges not only an expert on one breed but all breeds.


Ramon

True, if you are an AOS judge, you should be an expert on all genera, but that obviously isn't the case. On top of that, there is personal bias in judging which I don't think should be allowed. Judges should judge based on what they have learned only. Why do some plants get passed over by one judging team, then awarded by another? That doesn't seem fair.